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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by dane-pgp »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #27

What about cases where the dislikes are against a gov figure and the count gives you confidence in numbers. Plus now authoritarian governments get to serve out even more propaganda talking about videos that are liked and the opposition has no way to see that the opposite also happens. So the opposition grows even more silent. Afraid to act because it might lead to negative repercussions and there is no scale of the d…

"And it was to be foreseen that with the passage of time the distinguishing characteristics of Newspeak would become more and more pronounced — its words growing fewer and fewer, their meanings more and more rigid, and the chance of putting them to improper uses always diminishing."

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by klipklop »

LarrySellers wrote: post #69
klipklop wrote: post #16

Odd that a certain political party got a large amount of downvotes on all their videos and YouTube removes the publics ability to see them soon after.

Except they considered the change years before Biden was president: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18207189/youtube-dislike-a... This Trump rally from The Hill, where he tells his followers to get the vaccine that he got, garnered 1.5k likes and 1.3k dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huQdxDnQkac Here Trump hints at a 2024 run on the Today show, but it has more likes than dislikes. https://www.youtube.com/w…

I am alluding to the current party in the White House that gets every video downvoted into oblivion. Some sites accused YouTube of deleting the downvotes.

Now they are giving up and just hiding them now.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by apostacy »

capybara_2020 wrote: post #27

What about cases where the dislikes are against a gov figure and the count gives you confidence in numbers. Plus now authoritarian governments get to serve out even more propaganda talking about videos that are liked and the opposition has no way to see that the opposite also happens. So the opposition grows even more silent. Afraid to act because it might lead to negative repercussions and there is no scale of the d…

> Plus now authoritarian governments get to serve out even more propaganda talking about videos that are liked and the opposition has no way to see that the opposite also happens.

Well, yes, that is their agenda. The web as it was was not nearly as friendly for those with money and power.

Now, authoritarian governments and scumbag celebrities will project power over us, just like in the real world.

There are secret whitelists so that influencers like Logan Paul can fully monetize commuting crimes on YouTube (like desecrating a corpse)[2].

Celebrities are permitted to engage in targeted harassment or fraud, and people that call them out are banned.[1]

And of course, governments can engage in all sorts of war crimes, and big tech will censor anyone that tries blowing the whistle[3].

Facebook is happy to censor anything for dictators, but perhaps they will soon go the extra mile and just report people directly to the secret police. They could have a nice dashboard that shows up for local death squads of anyone that questions the leader.

And frankly, this is the future most of us welcomed. We defended all of this because muh private platforms. We consented to letting these big tech platforms set the rules. We welcomed anyone with an incongruent opinion banned.

The internet used to be a domain where scumbag fatcats didn't control everything, and you had some chance of speaking truth to power.

It will only get worse. Find out Dupont is dumping toxic waste in your back yard? Just a word from their PR dept and all of your accounts will be banned. Think you can speak directly to the people? Your domain name will be seized, your Cloudflare account closed, and any app permitted on peoples devices will have to ban you if they don't want to be removed.

[1]: https://www.aroged.com/2021/10/09/whitelisted-streamers-foun... [2]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-42538495 [3]: https://www.engadget.com/facebook-turkey-emails-200407588.ht...

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by deadmutex »

tinalumfoil wrote: post #36
butler14 wrote: post #9

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

This could also be a pride thing for Youtube/Alphabet. For the past few years the Youtube Rewind video [0] has somewhat infamously gotten heavily downvoted, mostly I think as a reflection of how frustrated viewers are with Youtube and maybe Alphabet as well. I'm sure the executives feel some catharsis taking away an avenue for users to express that frustration. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJOTdZBX1g

My take on it is that there is a number of diverse creators on the platform, and many YT users see a very different set of creators. E.g. You might see creators X, Y, Z and I might watch A, B, C for different topics. So, when it comes time to rewind, you can't please everyone since you'll have to pick a subset of creators. And then those who didn't see their favorite creators will be saying things like "Where was creator J? I watched so many of their videos, and they have a billion views, etc." And they might dislike the video, because they feel not represented. So, in my mind, the YT way to do rewind would be to do a custom rewind for each person (but there's no technology to automatically make a high quality video like that today).

Of course, this is just my theory about a segmentation of the population. Then there are people with their own agenda, and will use the dislike button as a protest for other things. Then once it reaches some threshold, some people just like to hit the dislike button to see how far they can push it.

Disclaimer: These are my own views, and not of my employer.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by ainar-g »

tinalumfoil wrote: post #36
butler14 wrote: post #9

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

This could also be a pride thing for Youtube/Alphabet. For the past few years the Youtube Rewind video [0] has somewhat infamously gotten heavily downvoted, mostly I think as a reflection of how frustrated viewers are with Youtube and maybe Alphabet as well. I'm sure the executives feel some catharsis taking away an avenue for users to express that frustration. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJOTdZBX1g

Rewind is kind of old news. Now that time YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki received a Free Expression Award from an organisation sponsored by YouTube[1] is more recent and something else completely, ratio-wise. Currently at 56,502 dislikes vs 226 likes. Which is a ratio of over 250×.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDcvPf78g1k

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