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Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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I don't think the fear with network neutrality was ever the idea of a content aggregator buying content on behalf of a subscriber, was it? My understanding of the argument with network neutrality was that the combination of the network provider as a natural monopoly and the network provider's ability to render content inaccessible would result in a fragmented Internet - you can only run so many wires to a house, and…

It's qualitatively different, but there's some similarities in appearances. The end-user viewpoint, if this trend grows, is that the majority of the internet could present as a set of subscription packages -- the more you buy, the more of the internet you can access, and at higher service levels. Because of these new financial incentives, previously open, ad-supported websites will shift to becoming closed, subscript…

> Conversely, since this is also an income source for the platforms/referrers

But in this scenario it's not. The platform is funneling part of it's revenue to the partners. There could be less direct incentives for boosting the partners (subscribers feel like they're getting more value when articles come from an ad-free partner, etc...)

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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What's weird here is that I would estimate it to be very difficult to find a person who generated over 30USD of revenue through ads for anyone other than the people selling the ads. But maybe my worldview is wrong here, I'm definitely not the right person to estimate Facebook's reach.

Reminds me of: "Half the money I spend on advertising is wasted; the trouble is I don't know which half."

John Wanamaker; https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/theymadeamerica/whomade/wanamaker_h...

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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Anyone have a look at what Reader View looks like? That was the only screenshot they didn’t post and yet the only one I care about.

Which platform? Here's one on iOS: https://twitter.com/NoelDavila/status/1458134578544185346

Disclaimer: Not associated with the tweet above, but I was the TL for Reader :)

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #71

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> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions But that's not how most of us access news. We look at sources like Twitter, Hacker News, Facebook, Google News for links to articles. Subscribing to a single website doesn't work in this model.

Why wouldn't it work? You simply subscribe to a publisher you are valuing.

How many different publishers did I visit once or twice this week? Probably a lot, but I’m not sure which, or how much all of them would cost.

Subscription-only articles suffer from the opposite of the network effect. If I pick 1/n publishers to subscribe to, and you pick 1/n, the odds I can read something you tried to share are only 1/n^2. It might help if there were wire services for major topics I care about.

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Is the WaPo subscription full or is it more like Apple News where you only get access to a couple headline articles and have to pay even more beyond news+ for full access? just looked it shows me $5.99 a month for wapo add on. If so might be worth it for me even though I don't use twitter. The rest I think are mostly available on news+ Full bloomberg on apple news is $34.99 a month, though they do have more free arti…

Yes, news backed off from Apple News because they want to track users more than Apple News allows, basically.

Plus they want to be more in control what gets shown.

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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post #71

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> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions But that's not how most of us access news. We look at sources like Twitter, Hacker News, Facebook, Google News for links to articles. Subscribing to a single website doesn't work in this model.

Who is "we"? I look at aggregators but I also subscribe at the source for publications I value.

It's difficult to find valuable sources though. I'm currently spending over $100 a month on subscriptions, and and I still feel like my sources are biased and myopic.

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> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions But that's not how most of us access news. We look at sources like Twitter, Hacker News, Facebook, Google News for links to articles. Subscribing to a single website doesn't work in this model.

Why wouldn't it work? You simply subscribe to a publisher you are valuing.

It's quite the feat to convince someone to pay for something they already get for free, particularly in the digital space... Aha! The answer has been right under our noses the entire time: we need to sell online media subscriptions as NFTs!

Re: Twitter Blue is now available in the US and NZ

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> You can pay publishers directly already by buying subscriptions. I don't mind paying for news. However, I do mind being on hold for 2 hours on a 1800 number that I had to dig up from some defunct webpage to cancel my subscription.

This is already illegal if you are in California and you can call your representatives and tell them to support the Unsubscribe Act to make it illegal nationwide. House link- https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/3953 Senate link - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/207...

OK but for the ~88% of Americans who don't live in California the point stands, at least today.
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