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Conspiratorial garbage. Zero evidence in favour of this and tons against.
What would be some examples of the 'against'?
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voat, the free speech version of Reddit went down this path very quickly. Most forums don't tolerate obvious hate speech, so the people who want to do that have to go to places that promise 'no moderation'
Voat is a pretty famous and obvious example, sure. But how many people who like to bring up voat actually visited the site or tried to use it? Did you? For the record, I've never visited voat, so I don't know how accurate the reports are. I can say that I have visited other forums with very lax moderation, and the caricature of "screaming the N-word in everyone's face" doesn't seem accurate. Generally the reason I av…
I have some beef with Reddit and I legitimately wanted it to succeed, but I promise you as someone who cared a little about voat, it really was people screaming racial slurs.
Some of this probably has to do with voat getting most of their users when reddit banned fatpeoplehate. I can totally imagine other unmoderated places still being nice. But what happens when one outspoken racist makes their home there? Everyone has to either put up with it or leave.
imo, you have the million dollar question right there. Moderating is hard & thankless work. I hope that someone makes a good federated social media soon
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voat, the free speech version of Reddit went down this path very quickly. Most forums don't tolerate obvious hate speech, so the people who want to do that have to go to places that promise 'no moderation'
So you're saying all I have to do to take down free speech is to shout racialisms incessantly?
Every single time someone tries something like this, it becomes a bastion for hate speech and everyone else is driven away. It turns out most people actually like a moderated forum. If you joined a book club and every meeting had people just screaming the N-word at the top of their lungs the entire time, I suspect you wouldn't stay at that book club long. Yet time and time again we see people learning this same lesso…
In threads like this, I'm always struck by the absence of discussion from a security-minded, denial-of-service attack perspective. It seems like, if someone didn't want one of these platforms to succeed, all that would be necessary would be to hire a few people to spam certain taboo words and ideas from various sockpuppet accounts, and then the rest of the world points at it and says, "It seems like everyone on this…
(fwiw, I doubt that the paid trolls are lurking in obscure forums. They're posting on Facebook and Twitter themselves)
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Voat is a pretty famous and obvious example, sure. But how many people who like to bring up voat actually visited the site or tried to use it? Did you? For the record, I've never visited voat, so I don't know how accurate the reports are. I can say that I have visited other forums with very lax moderation, and the caricature of "screaming the N-word in everyone's face" doesn't seem accurate. Generally the reason I av…
I visited voat on occasion to see how it was working out, mostly checking out the groups that were not inherently political, such as /v/science and /v/movies. Here is a description of such a visit shortly before they shut down [1]. I generally saw a lot more anti-Jew stuff than anti-Black stuff, but when a Black person came up there was a good chance someone would use the N word. They could usually even make their an…
I still don't think the criticism of anti-censorship movement in general that I responded to is at all accurate, but that doesn't mean there won't be exceptions.