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I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

avianlyric wrote: post #23
junon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a clickbaitey video. This is styropyro, one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers when it comes to lasers and the related engineering. He's not just some dude who hooks up lasers to a wall outlet. He knows very well what he's doing. He always makes a point about proper laser safety. Another one is Photonicinduction, an electrical engineer that plays with insane voltages in his attic basically. I'd never want…

> If some idiot thinks they're god and wants to emulate something they're clearly not capable of doing safely It can be difficult to know if you’re capable of doing something safely. Unfortunately you only find out that you’re not capable when it goes wrong. There’s a reason why labs and engineering firms force people through long detailed safety training courses. There’s a lot of things out there that can kill or se…

No risk, no fun. Why so serious?

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

avianlyric wrote: post #29
junon wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It can be difficult to know if you’re capable of doing something safely Not really. Opening up electronics, fiddling with them, and then plugging them in, is pretty typically considered dangerous. It's such a ridiculous argument to say we should be censoring this stuff because it's dangerous to the untrained. Should we censor professional cooking videos where they chop food really fast with sharp knives? Someone co…

> Not really. Opening up electronics, fiddling with them, and then plugging them in, is pretty typically considered dangerous. With a microwave, just opening it up and fiddling is dangerous. No need to plug it in. The main capacitor inside stores enough charge at a high enough voltage to kill you. Unless you take explicit steps to discharge it, it’ll hold that charge for hours to days. > It's such a ridiculous argume…

Fire in a built-up environment, or indoors can be very counterintuitive, too. Fast. If you haven't experienced it, you can't know. Also the next one can be counterintuitive differently, depending on environment. I'd guess the same is true for large forest fires, but I haven't experienced those, so far. Phew!

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by stevespang »

avian wrote: post #14

I wonder, how many people will give themselves RF burns or permanent laser damage to their eyesight trying to replicate stuff they see in these click-baity videos? YouTube is full of content that tries to give the impression of a random, edgy, not-quite-knowing-what-they're-doing guy just messing around with stuff in their parent's garage, woefully ignoring all safety concerns on camera. I'm sure many of their viewer…

I reported this video for it danger / safety issues - - - but YouTube is making tons of money off this "pretty boy" video with almost 2 million views - - at the expense of peoples lives.

We need more smart people to report this video - - put the heat on YouTube.

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by ubercow13 »

jrootabega wrote: post #32
junon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a clickbaitey video. This is styropyro, one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers when it comes to lasers and the related engineering. He's not just some dude who hooks up lasers to a wall outlet. He knows very well what he's doing. He always makes a point about proper laser safety. Another one is Photonicinduction, an electrical engineer that plays with insane voltages in his attic basically. I'd never want…

I think it is/isn't a clickbait video regardless of the credentials of who produced it. I agree this one is. It's padded out to 20 minutes, stealth mid roll ads inserted, etc. You don't get to be well-known on youtube by making non-clickbait content. I don't dispute that he's knowledgeable, though.

That’s not clickbait. The thumbnail/framing/title of this video isn’t deceptive. It delivers exactly what it says. What do midroll ads have to do with clickbait?

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by junon »

gaze wrote: post #55
junon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a clickbaitey video. This is styropyro, one of the most knowledgeable YouTubers when it comes to lasers and the related engineering. He's not just some dude who hooks up lasers to a wall outlet. He knows very well what he's doing. He always makes a point about proper laser safety. Another one is Photonicinduction, an electrical engineer that plays with insane voltages in his attic basically. I'd never want…

Styropyro is one of the most universally reviled science YouTube channels among practicing scientists. Beyond doing really dumb shit, he runs an absolute cesspool of a discord server overrun with 14 year olds who build very dangerous laser contraptions, and then buy the cheapest, shittiest laser safety goggles, which are completely ineffective. He makes doing dangerous things in a completely unprepared way look cool.

> among practicing scientists.

Source please. First I've ever heard of this.

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by gaze »

junon wrote: post #95
gaze wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Styropyro is one of the most universally reviled science YouTube channels among practicing scientists. Beyond doing really dumb shit, he runs an absolute cesspool of a discord server overrun with 14 year olds who build very dangerous laser contraptions, and then buy the cheapest, shittiest laser safety goggles, which are completely ineffective. He makes doing dangerous things in a completely unprepared way look cool.

> among practicing scientists. Source please. First I've ever heard of this.

Myself and my colleagues.

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by asddubs »

Rastonbury wrote: post #67
asddubs wrote: post #17

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I mean, that video was so light on actual information, you would have a hard time attempting to replicate any of this without already knowing how to do it. That's what usually bugs me about youtube videos like this, it's a lot of showboating and gags, but the interesting part of how the build actually goes together is barely worth a mention. (Of course, you'd be greatly limiting your potential target audience if you…

If he mentioned how to do it the people who commented would be even more upset.

Well yeah, I agree they probably would, I'm just saying that as it stands that complaint kind of falls flat (not that I'd agree with it if the video was more detailed, as long as there was some kind of warning). Although to be honest I think that danger is higher for relatively simple yet very dangerous projects like a microwave oven transformer jacobs ladder, rather than something that involves a fair bit of modification and equipment.

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by oceanghost »

oceanghost wrote: post #82
avian wrote: post #14

I wonder, how many people will give themselves RF burns or permanent laser damage to their eyesight trying to replicate stuff they see in these click-baity videos? YouTube is full of content that tries to give the impression of a random, edgy, not-quite-knowing-what-they're-doing guy just messing around with stuff in their parent's garage, woefully ignoring all safety concerns on camera. I'm sure many of their viewer…

Honestly, he convinced me to take lasers much more seriously, and I purchased a set of proper laser goggles specifically because he said the cheap ones that come with Chinese lasers often don't work. Which I otherwise would have simply used.

I can't edit my post anymore so I'm replying to myself. Styropyro also did a review of a laser system I was planning on purchasing. Not only did he show me it was half price at another vendor but then admonished the watcher for doing something absolutely stupid.

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by junon »

gaze wrote: post #96
junon wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> among practicing scientists. Source please. First I've ever heard of this.

Myself and my colleagues.

That's not a source. That's an anecdote. Don't passively dismiss people's work, it's insulting and against the guidelines of HN.

Re: I converted my microwave into a laser oven [video]

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Post by jrootabega »

ubercow13 wrote: post #94
jrootabega wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it is/isn't a clickbait video regardless of the credentials of who produced it. I agree this one is. It's padded out to 20 minutes, stealth mid roll ads inserted, etc. You don't get to be well-known on youtube by making non-clickbait content. I don't dispute that he's knowledgeable, though.

That’s not clickbait. The thumbnail/framing/title of this video isn’t deceptive. It delivers exactly what it says. What do midroll ads have to do with clickbait?

Eh, I think that's like saying gutting a fish is not fishing.
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