Ivermectin shows that not all science is worth following • Hacker News Board

Re: Ivermectin shows that not all science is worth following

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Post by pfisch » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 10:53 PM UTC

didjathinkmess wrote: post #53

pfisch wrote: post #27

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The people saying ivermectin works are the same people saying hcq worked last year. The people pushing the vaccine are the only people who have consistently been curing serious illnesses for the last 100 years. The ivermectin group are the people who have been pushing snake oil for the last 1000 years and cured nothing.

You heard it hear first: Ivermectin people have been pushing snake oil (nothing specific, just general snake oil.. like Ivermectin!) for 1000 years. Should I ask him for a source?

There have been people pushing snake oil instead of vaccines for the entire history of vaccines.

You can draw a straight line through the history of vaccination and find people pushing fake cures and drugs that are basically unsupported by solid evidence instead of vaccines.

Re: Ivermectin shows that not all science is worth following

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Post by pfisch » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 10:57 PM UTC

silver-arrow wrote: post #50

dralley wrote: post #40

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What do you mean? Smallpox is extinct, diptheria, pertussus and polio are nearly extinct, and measles mumps and rubella would be nearly extinct if not for pockets of antivaxers creating a constant stream of outbreaks. Go look up how many diseases these people killed prior to the vaccines, and then a few years after. You are absolutely taking for granted what we've accomplished through the use of vaccines.

I agree but those were scientists from the past that practiced real science. Meaning they accepted counter arguments and evidence; not just dictate. They also discovered through the scientific method that you can not vaccinate for corona viruses They also were acutely aware you should never mass vaccinate during a pandemic. They were correct and that is why you see the results in Israel, Singapore, England, and now t…

Oh yes, the scientists of the unspecified date in the past when everything was perfect and there were no politics and no one was ever subverting science to tell us to smoke cigarettes.

You are living in a fantasy. Science and economics have always been messy, and despite that advances in medical science are now and always have been the best and only real line of defense against disease.

Re: Ivermectin shows that not all science is worth following

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Post by pfisch » Mon, Oct 25, 2021, 11:02 PM UTC

silver-arrow wrote: post #36

pfisch wrote: post #27

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The people saying ivermectin works are the same people saying hcq worked last year. The people pushing the vaccine are the only people who have consistently been curing serious illnesses for the last 100 years. The ivermectin group are the people who have been pushing snake oil for the last 1000 years and cured nothing.

Curing serious disease? That’s rich.

I have cystic fibrosis. They basically discovered the cure a few years ago. It is called trikafta.

What you are saying is ridiculous. The medical industrial complex has problems, but it does deliver very real miracles to millions of people every year.