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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange. B-Camera angles are common in interviews. It's to help create a less formal and less stuffy 'presentation' like feel. It's intended to be more of a "you're standing there, somewhat behind the scenes" feel.

It is also one way to obscure the fact that someone's using a teleprompter because it is more difficult to see that their eyes are moving back and forth.

From what I watched of the presentation, there was also a fair bit of moving around. In my studio, we primarily used it as a way to hide main camera adjustments in the edit, usually from the interviewee changing positions, slouching, etc. Generally, a high enough quality production will never rely on a single camera regardless.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Is it 5 years of Android updates or 5 years of security updates?

For both Google and Samsung, security updates. Google says "Feature drops for at least three years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US." on the shop page footnotes. Samsung says you get 3 major Android updates on your devices. Therefore, Samsung is a better deal for updates assuming Google doesn't release a new major Android version every year.

Does Samsung still take an eternity to do the actual updates once they're available from Goog?

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

> Apple’s stated intents to actively incriminate you by scanning your photos on a personal device More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos for exact matches with known child pornography material (like every other cloud provider, including Google), and then have the case reviewed by a human only after multiple positives, and only then forwarding the case to law enforcement (based on photos you chose t…

You mean, setting a precedent for expansion of personal device scanning

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> their intent is to scan cloud photos corrected: their intent is to scan all photos in your photo library, on your device, including images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages, if you have iCloud Photo enabled.

> images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages As far as I am aware, this is false and there is no mechanism on iOS by which images are "automatically pulled into" the photo library from anywhere, Messages or otherwise. Do you have a source or an example of how that could happen? (edit: people are mentioning Whatsapp, which I guess has an option to auto-save received photos. Fair enough,…

> As far as I am aware, there is no mechanism on iOS by which images are "automatically pulled into" iCloud photos from anywhere, Messages or otherwise. Do you have a source or an example of how that could happen? When I receive images from my friends, they don't go into my photo library until I explicitly tap "save".

Per Apple [0]

>Shared with You works across the system to find the (...) photos, and more that are shared in Messages conversations, and conveniently surfaces them in apps like Photos (...) making it easy to quickly access the information in context.

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>Yes, that's what I said. Enabling iCloud photos uploads your photo library to the cloud, so it's scanning your cloud photos.

Being disingenuous about it is still a thing though. You stated

> More accurately put, their intent is to scan cloud photos (...) (like every other cloud provider, including Google)

which makes it appear that the photos are only scanned server side "like every other cloud provider". Client side scanning is something that no other provider does, in contrast to what you stated.

[0]: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/06/ios-15-brings-powerfu....

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> exact matches Not exact matches. Hashes. Hashes that were quickly show to have collisions that the company brushed off.

Thus the manual review. No one's going to be going to prison over a hash collision here.

But a manual reviewer in Cupertino or elsewhere still gets access to your personal (possibly very intimate or otherwise private) photos. Privacy from law enforcement is hardly the only privacy that people value.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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One interesting thing to note is how much more high-budget Hollywood style Apple's event feels in comparison to Google's event. Having watched the two events on successive days, some things stand out - Apple throws numbers repeatedly at you through out the presentation and you end up remembering quite a few useless statistics (55.7 billion transitors in M1 Max) Apple makes a much bigger deal about each device with lo…

>The weirdest thing in the Google presentation is that several sections had presenters talking to a different camera than facing the screen. That just felt very strange. Not sure if that is reassuring or a sign of carelessness or a very well planned stunt.

They did that last year too, it feels more like a documentary/tv show than a keynote.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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When I first read about the Pixel Pass, I wished it made sense for people on existing family plans. But digging deeper, I see that's the least of the problems there.

Some red flags:

* If/when you cancel Pixel Pass in the future, it will also cancel your Google One membership. If you're over the 15GB free tier, your email will stop working (!!!)[0].

* You have to cancel your existing YouTube Premium subscription before you can sign up.

[0]: https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9056360?hl=en&co...

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Another garbage phone to show off. Google Pixel has been highly unreliable. My OG pixel XL bricked twice within 2 years. My Pixel 3 had defects that forced me to take calls on speaker phone otherwise the mic wouldn't work after the warranty expired. Meanwhile, my wife is still rocking the iPhone 7 with some degradation in battery life, but pretty much everything else working as it should. I don't regret jumping into…

My Pixel 2 was solid and reliable up until it stopped getting security updates last year. One year in on a Pixel 4a and zero complaints with it so far.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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> their intent is to scan cloud photos corrected: their intent is to scan all photos in your photo library, on your device, including images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages, if you have iCloud Photo enabled.

> images automatically pulled in from from various sources such as messages As far as I am aware, this is false and there is no mechanism on iOS by which images are "automatically pulled into" the photo library from anywhere, Messages or otherwise. Do you have a source or an example of how that could happen? (edit: people are mentioning Whatsapp, which I guess has an option to auto-save received photos. Fair enough,…

WhatsApp has a "Save to Camera Roll" option which automatically saves all images and videos to your photo library.
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