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I can't believe they're doubling down on the notch. The absolute best thing I can say about the iPhone notch is: I don't hate it enough to switch to Android. It's by far the thing that bothers me the most about the design. It's ugly and lacking harmony with the UI.
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Or, you know, under nearly every normal use case, it will just blend into the display. It causes no issues on the iPhones and looks just fine for what it is and, aesthetically, I'd prefer to have the slight bit of extra screen space for status icons and menus as opposed to a larger bevel. I don't see you proposing any better, more aesthetically pleasing solution, only complaining.
> I don't see you proposing any better, more aesthetically pleasing solution, only complaining. How about not having a notch, like literally every other Apple (and non-Apple) laptop? Is that even conceivable?
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The notch is a design tradeoff, not a gimmick.
It is a gimmick. There are laptops with slim bezels, HD cameras and no notch whatsoever. If it was a tradeoff, they would've made it smaller. It's a branding effort. Remember, they're referring to the notch as iconic .
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The notch is a design tradeoff, not a gimmick.
It is a gimmick. There are laptops with slim bezels, HD cameras and no notch whatsoever. If it was a tradeoff, they would've made it smaller. It's a branding effort. Remember, they're referring to the notch as iconic .
This new macbook has a 3.5mm bezel and achieves it with the camera in the "notch". By comparison, the thinnest non-mac bezel I've seen is the Huawei Matebook at 4.4mm but it puts in the camera in the keyboard facing upwards towards your face (awkward angle "nosecam"). Which means your fingers can show up in the camera if you're typing during a video call.
So, as far as I can tell, they listened to every single complaint people had about the last generation of pro Macs. These are in every meaning of the word pro machines. Now, they're so pro, I can't imagine why anyone would need one, unless they do multi-media professionally, or work exclusively in Xcode. I can't even believe they compromised on size and weight in order to deliver something more pro. It's a complaint…
Unfortunately, they compromised on price. A 16GB version is immediately 3000€ in Europe, which is a lot for a less well-off area than USA.
* Lowest spec 14 inch MBP (16/512 GB) 2349€
* 15 inch XPS, i9, 16/512 GB, RTX 3050 Ti, maxed out screen (with Windows Home, heh) - 2849€, this computer is a joke compared to what we can expect from even the cheapest 14 MBP
* For a bit more fairer comparison, an XPS 17, i9 16/512 GB, RTX 3060, maxed screen (still with Windows Home) - 3549€, but even this probably can't hold a candle to the cheapest 14 MBP
For reference, an almost maxed out 16 MBP (4 TB disk, instead of 8) is 5559€, a maxed out 17 inch XPS 4999€. I think Apple has been more than fair with prices in this case. These machines are usually bought as tools, a business expense, it's not much in the grand scheme of things.
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I thought it looked thicker too but it turns out the new models are even 0.01cm thinner (if you want to call it that).
Oh wow, it certainly doesn't look that way but the new ones actually are thinner. That's interesting.
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Or, you know, under nearly every normal use case, it will just blend into the display. It causes no issues on the iPhones and looks just fine for what it is and, aesthetically, I'd prefer to have the slight bit of extra screen space for status icons and menus as opposed to a larger bevel. I don't see you proposing any better, more aesthetically pleasing solution, only complaining.
> I don't see you proposing any better, more aesthetically pleasing solution, only complaining. How about not having a notch, like literally every other Apple (and non-Apple) laptop? Is that even conceivable?
Edit: 'Notch' not 'not'
Finally, the touch bar of the Macbook is gone.
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Or, you know, under nearly every normal use case, it will just blend into the display. It causes no issues on the iPhones and looks just fine for what it is and, aesthetically, I'd prefer to have the slight bit of extra screen space for status icons and menus as opposed to a larger bevel. I don't see you proposing any better, more aesthetically pleasing solution, only complaining.
> I don't see you proposing any better, more aesthetically pleasing solution, only complaining. How about not having a notch, like literally every other Apple (and non-Apple) laptop? Is that even conceivable?
So literally the least functional and useful of all possible options?
The notch isn't subtractive from previous generations' screen space. The bezel was removed except for the area where the notch is, adding a menu bar's worth of screen space. And the center of that menu bar is virtually always empty space. Your proposal is to add extra bezels back and subtract away a menu bar's worth of vertical space, just to remove a small protrusion that you won't even notice half a week into using the device.
“The design is not just what it looks like and feels like. The design is how it works.”