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You are wrong about what is meant by a "social circle". They are people that he socializes with. Definition of social circle is "A social circle is a group of socially interconnected people". I doubt anyone would complain about having a small social circle if it contained 2M people. :)
No. > My daughter's bf's friends mom
The Plague of the Poor
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#92The Politicisation of the Plague in the USA is the real story here, and I think many in the US are unaware that it’s not like that in other places. For example in the UK vaccination rates amongst Conservative and Labour voters are the same. So why is there such disparity in the US between Biden voters and Trump voters when it comes to Covid-denialism, pseudo-cures, and antivaxxing?
> So why is there such disparity in the US between Biden voters and Trump voters when it comes to Covid-denialism, pseudo-cures, and antivaxxing? And creationism vs. evolution, and global warming denial, and the "Trump won" big lie, etc... See a pattern here? I call it anti-science ignorance.
And, it's not anti-science for the sake of anti-science. It's part of an overall anti-establishment theme. The point of it is to sell people on the idea that they are under attack and only one party (man) is their savior. To do that, they have to cleave people away from reality. So, it's all mistrust built primarily on misinformation and conspiracy theories, whether it's Q or COVID.
And, voilà: with these grievances and fears so viciously stoked, you now have an army of programmed drones under your command who believe they're fighting an existential war for their freedom vs simply being asked to be a responsible member of society.
That's how you end up with people like this woman, who are closer to the center of the party than many people want to admit:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/status/1447211987717...
I will now have some of your downvotes.
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#93> In New York City for example, only 28% of the city’s Black residents aged 18 to 44 were vaccinated as of August 2021, when the city began paying residents $100 each to receive the vaccine. When that didn’t work, the city embraced a vaccine passport system that would exclude the majority of young Black New Yorkers from most indoor and civic activities, amounting to a de facto form of segregation. In New York City it…
Here's another well-done analysis, by the Kaiser Family Foundation:
https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-...
What I find interesting is that the rate of vaccination is higher in Hispanic and Black groups than Whites, so the gap in the cumulative numbers of vaccinations is slowly closing (this is most clearly visible in Figure 3, which shows a timeline).
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#94I try to summarize leaving out explicit statements about Covid: - a significant portion of the US-Population (my remark: similar to other western countries) is not willing to take the shot - a huge proportion of which are underprivileged, from "working classes" - the pharmaceutical companies have a gigantic financial leverage, in total $1.3 trillion. (My remark: an example from Germany: Biontech Investors: Thomas & A…
It is far more pronounced in the US than it is in other western countries. There was an interesting article on that yesterday in USA Today, but it is so paywalled I can't even get a reasonable link there, but here it is on Yahoo [1].
[1] https://news.yahoo.com/cambodia-canada-dozens-other-nations-...
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
An interesting wrinkle to this is all the media personalities and Democrat politicians (including our current VP) that we’re staunchly opposed to the vaccine while Trump was still president. Now that Biden is president, it is apparently a different vaccine (for both sides of the aisle)
What the current VP said during the previous administration was that she was not confident that the previous administration would base their recommendations on what scientists said rather than what is politically expedient, and that she would go with what the scientists said when it came to evaluating COVID measures. See https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/23/tiktok-pos...
And again, she is just one example among very very many.
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. > My daughter's bf's friends mom
They said: "I don't have a large social circle." You need to read context a bit more carefully.
"My dad's coworker" - 2 steps
"my wife's brothers" - 2 steps
"My daughter's bf's friends mom" - 4 steps
"A friend" - 1 step
He might have a small social circle, but even a small circle is going to explode exponentially when you start hoping outwards. By the 4th jump, you're going to start seeing extreme numbers regardless of how small your personal social circle is.
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Your math is wrong, see the birthday paradox. But still, unlikely.
It's a back of the envelope calculation. I've a strong intuition that the precise answer isn't too far off.
The implied qualification of - there exists a HN-er so divide by 1e9 to get odds - is nowhere close to accounting for the additional degrees of freedom from the social graph.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
What the current VP said during the previous administration was that she was not confident that the previous administration would base their recommendations on what scientists said rather than what is politically expedient, and that she would go with what the scientists said when it came to evaluating COVID measures. See https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/23/tiktok-pos...
What she actually said: “If Dr. Fauci, if the doctors tell us that we should take it, I’ll be the first in line to take it. Absolutely,” Harris said. “But if Donald Trump tells us to take it, I’m not taking it.” And again, she is just one example among very very many.
Harris is saying that if Dr. Fauci says to take it she would regardless of what Trump says, and that if Trump says to take it but Dr. Fauci does not she would not take it.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn’t it just easier (and with virtually no risk) to require people to vaccinate rather than debate over who did/did not actually have COVID?
Antibody tests exist. I’m not in any way antivax, but it makes no sense why people who already had COVID should be required to receive a vaccine instead of just proving they have antibodies. This kind of illogical policy gives fuel to antivaxers.
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#100The Politicisation of the Plague in the USA is the real story here, and I think many in the US are unaware that it’s not like that in other places. For example in the UK vaccination rates amongst Conservative and Labour voters are the same. So why is there such disparity in the US between Biden voters and Trump voters when it comes to Covid-denialism, pseudo-cures, and antivaxxing?
I think a contributing factor is the general demographics of the parties. Conservative areas tend to rural and less densely populated compared to liberal areas that tend to be higher density populations. Rural communities are more "take care of yourself" and I thinks a lot of our inability to meet eye to eye comes from different base assumptions.
Like NYC and Boston famously have a "fuck you, mind you own business" stereotype contrasted with a rural stereotype expectation of cooperating for the community.
I think the higher order bit is Repliblicans pushing an anti-institutional agenda more recently (including Trump saying bad things about historically conservative institutions like the FBI) which naturally lines up with an antivax agenda.