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2450MHz radiation induces stress and anxiety like behavior in rats (2019)

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Re: 2450MHz radiation induces stress and anxiety like behavior in rats (2019)

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justshowpost wrote: post #83
noselasd wrote: post #53

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Doesn't most consumer wifi routers do that by now by default ?

Scanning for least congested freq is very common, but it only performed right before upping of AP iface and no else. So sweeping the band with AP is very impractical.

some of the higher end routers have an extra radio specifically for scanning. Ie: see Cisco

https://meraki.cisco.com/product/wi-fi/indoor-access-points/...

This thing will scan channels, as well as perform security operations.

Re: 2450MHz radiation induces stress and anxiety like behavior in rats (2019)

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hansel_der wrote: post #69
blobbers wrote: post #28

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What are you talking about? Your wifi router isn't jumping channels unless you have something fairly sophisticated (read auto channel assignment that recalibrates periodically when nobody is connected).

enthusiast (eg. vanilla-openwrt) and enterprise gear won't, but soho and consumer routers totally do, because in a high density, non-cooperative environments (apartment) it has some potential to make it suck less and ppl like and pay for them "smarts".

Right, but you can't frequency hop without disconnecting most clients. Generally speaking most modern clients are connecting on 5GHz anyways; it's just some generic things like wifi scales or legacy devices that might only be in the 2.4 spectrum.

Re: 2450MHz radiation induces stress and anxiety like behavior in rats (2019)

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Post by trehalose »

yetihehe wrote: post #37
Taniwha wrote: post #6

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but .... inverse square law ..... before you worry about wifi worry about the one known source of EMR that makes bigger fatter photons that do provably cause cancer .... you know the one, in the the sky, go out when it's visible and you can actually feel the photons

but ... penetration and frequency. They are important too. Of course that only means that 1000W of microwave has other effects than 1000W of light, but I'm pretty sure that both 100mW of microwave and 100mW of light are pretty insignificant.

Depends on the power density. A 100mW laser is seriously dangerous, it can cause permanent eye injury in an instant.

Re: 2450MHz radiation induces stress and anxiety like behavior in rats (2019)

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Post by accountofme »

anotherhue wrote: post #72
accountofme wrote: post #68

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2.4GHz resonates with water. Thus why it is also used in microwaves to heat our food!

An urban legend. Microwaves cause heating across a wide range of frequencies.

This is an Australian affect. We call microwave ovens microwaves.

Re: 2450MHz radiation induces stress and anxiety like behavior in rats (2019)

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Post by anotherhue »

coldtea wrote: post #88
detaro wrote: post #81

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"Microwaves" as in "the part of the electromagnetic spectrum we call microwaves". And as they correctly point out, that consumer ovens use a specific frequency has nothing to do with it being a resonance frequency of water, but it being a reasonable to use and legal frequency to do so. They would work on 1 GHz or 5 GHz too.

> "Microwaves" as in "the part of the electromagnetic spectrum we call microwaves". The parent wasn't speaking about "the part of the electromagnetic spectrum we call microwaves" in general, but about what's "used in microwaves to heat our food", i.e. microwave ovens.

Yes I meant EM waves here, not microwaves which can be taken to mean the devices.

Check my submission history for my creds in this regard.

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