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Re: A different kind of keyboard

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I'm really keen on things like this. I love (in theory at least) the concept of being able to work from literally anywhere, and the concept of some sort of smart display (glasses, lenses, etc) but having a physical keyboard to type out code is always a major barrier. Something like this starts to edge towards that vision which is cool. I wonder as well if there's a way to have some sort of bracelet (but probably some…

Like this? https://www.tapwithus.com/

Sounds like something that'd be interesting to try out, but not with a $200 price tag.

Re: A different kind of keyboard

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> It would teach sight-able people how to write braille. Is this an interesting goal? I absolutely understand why it would be extremely valuable for most people to know their local sign language for communication with those who can't hear, but I fail to see how wider learning of a very special writing system (one that anyway can't be currently read from electronic devices) would impact the sight-impaired community.

There are definitely electronic Braille reading devices. They're called refreshable braille displays, and are often also combined with a specialized keyboard. Wider adoption could conceivably improve these interfaces through more users and commercial interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_braille_display

That doesn't read Braille. It reads digital data and writes Braille.

Re: A different kind of keyboard

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Holy Baader-Meinhof Batman! Just yesterday I had the idea for a phonecase that had a few buttons on the back-- nothing so specific as a chordic keyboard, more for things like a camera shutter button and some other macros. I even started roughing out a schematic. The FaunchPad looks sort of ill suited for the task because its wired but there are some good BLE SoCs out there now that can sip power.

Re: A different kind of keyboard

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> It would teach sight-able people how to write braille. Is this an interesting goal? I absolutely understand why it would be extremely valuable for most people to know their local sign language for communication with those who can't hear, but I fail to see how wider learning of a very special writing system (one that anyway can't be currently read from electronic devices) would impact the sight-impaired community.

The daughter of a coworker of mine has an elementary-school friendship with a blind girl. When she wanted to write a letter to her, I embossed the text for her, because, you know, I can write braille. I was told the little girl was very thrilled to receive a piece of paper she could actually read. But I guess this sort of human interaction isn't worth the effort, right? :-( Sad to read your attitude.

Please don't be an asshole. You can do a one-off transliteration+embossing without becoming fluent in Braille or owning a dedicated Braille input device. The braille input device wouldn't make the task notably easier, since it is trivial to mechanically or electronically transliterate letters into Braille.

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> It would teach sight-able people how to write braille. Is this an interesting goal? I absolutely understand why it would be extremely valuable for most people to know their local sign language for communication with those who can't hear, but I fail to see how wider learning of a very special writing system (one that anyway can't be currently read from electronic devices) would impact the sight-impaired community.

The daughter of a coworker of mine has an elementary-school friendship with a blind girl. When she wanted to write a letter to her, I embossed the text for her, because, you know, I can write braille. I was told the little girl was very thrilled to receive a piece of paper she could actually read. But I guess this sort of human interaction isn't worth the effort, right? :-( Sad to read your attitude.

> But I guess this sort of human interaction isn't worth the effort, right?

Parent didn't say that. Do you really think adding that ending is making your comment more convincing?

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Oh man I remember ME from when I had my Palm V, it was such an improvement. I think these days swipe input on querty has got it beat, at least for words that are in the dictionary. A one-touch way to switch between the standard keyboard for swipe and ME for the rest would be killer.

Haven't heard of swipe (or swype) before, maybe I will try, thanks.

Trying swype now. On first impression I would not say it's more convenient than Message Ease. Maybe I need to get used ťo it, will keep it for some more time.

Re: A different kind of keyboard

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> It would teach sight-able people how to write braille. Is this an interesting goal? I absolutely understand why it would be extremely valuable for most people to know their local sign language for communication with those who can't hear, but I fail to see how wider learning of a very special writing system (one that anyway can't be currently read from electronic devices) would impact the sight-impaired community.

The daughter of a coworker of mine has an elementary-school friendship with a blind girl. When she wanted to write a letter to her, I embossed the text for her, because, you know, I can write braille. I was told the little girl was very thrilled to receive a piece of paper she could actually read. But I guess this sort of human interaction isn't worth the effort, right? :-( Sad to read your attitude.

You're being very disingenuous to assume that we all make decisions like the one being talked about in a vacuum.

Re: A different kind of keyboard

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There are definitely electronic Braille reading devices. They're called refreshable braille displays, and are often also combined with a specialized keyboard. Wider adoption could conceivably improve these interfaces through more users and commercial interest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refreshable_braille_display

That doesn't read Braille. It reads digital data and writes Braille.

its a reading device in the sense that an amazon kindle is a reading device, a device with which to read

Re: A different kind of keyboard

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iOS actually has a multi-touch based braille keyboard built-in. So you can have a rather similar behaviour, however, without extra hardware, with native iOS. In Settings > Accessiblity > VoiceOver, add "Braille keyboard" to the rotor options, and then use two fingers in a circular motion until you hear "Braille input". You can now hold the screen away from you in landscape mode, and use three fingers from each hand t…

A demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wueLXCbm_KY

That's mesmerizing to watch – thanks for sharing!
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