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The age verification appears to be opt-in, however they don't say what happens if you don't hand over your kids ID. One would hope that it would disable or limit communication between players and keep the player in a suitable for all category. I wouldn't be surprised that because their user base is growing up, they they would want to change it into kind of a "second life" for teenagers. Whichever way, they're not get…
Though I applaud the effort to get age right and protect players, I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable having me or my child scan our photo ID and selfie to upload it as part of a login flow to an application.
Once upon a time the usual thing to get OK'd to rent a van (e.g. for students who are moving house) is you rock up to the rental place with the legal documents showing you're entitled to drive. You're relying on the fact that the person renting you a van doesn't much care and isn't keeping the exact details from those documents.
But although you can do this today, obviously the documents get scanned into a permanent data repository, so, that's not great. But, the UK government added a site so you can prove you're you, and get codes, which for a limited period show someone that yup, this person is legal to drive and so on.
They do this for right to work too. Although, annoyingly only for foreigners. If you're a citizen, you can't prove right to work this way, you need to be like "Look, I'm a citizen, here's proof" to your employer. But if you are foreign you can just go "Check this URL, your government says I'm entitled to work here" and they needn't know whether that's because your husband is a "Cultural Attaché" to the Russian Embassy, or you've got special refugee status, or you're actually an Italian and you just speak and look Russian for some reason, just that you're entitled to work here.
First off... NOT A FUCKING CHANCE. If a kid came to me with a game that was asking for "opt in" age verification by scanning government ID, and they wanted to do it, we'd have a long talk about privacy and that game would get uninstalled even if it means the end result is the kid crying over it. Second, how is this going to work? I don't know a single kid that plays Roblox and has a government issued photo ID. And ar…
I see the logic of it. If you make laws that state kids can't have access to services you need a way to verify someone is in fact an adult.
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I mean yeah, you could, but forging identity documents is illegal in most places with functioning legal systems, for obvious reasons. Forging a government ID and presenting it as a real one is a giant minefield that most people probably don't want to be in.
You're suggesting that it should be illegal to lie to Roblox about your identity?
First off... NOT A FUCKING CHANCE. If a kid came to me with a game that was asking for "opt in" age verification by scanning government ID, and they wanted to do it, we'd have a long talk about privacy and that game would get uninstalled even if it means the end result is the kid crying over it. Second, how is this going to work? I don't know a single kid that plays Roblox and has a government issued photo ID. And ar…
This is a bandaid measure. Roblox spends most of its time convincing young children that they will be successful while simultaneously cheesing the 'robux' exchange rate so that these children get nothing. Roblox is undoubtedly responding to backlash from revelations that they are exploiting children for economic growth. Here's a great summary: https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ
I've never seen this. Could you give an example? Me and my kids are pretty heavy players, with a couple games released, with one giving my kid a nice stream of Robux.
Though I applaud the effort to get age right and protect players, I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable having me or my child scan our photo ID and selfie to upload it as part of a login flow to an application.
I would much prefer my government to take on responsibility for providing this sort of service as they do e.g. driver qualification. Once upon a time the usual thing to get OK'd to rent a van (e.g. for students who are moving house) is you rock up to the rental place with the legal documents showing you're entitled to drive. You're relying on the fact that the person renting you a van doesn't much care and isn't keep…
Though I applaud the effort to get age right and protect players, I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable having me or my child scan our photo ID and selfie to upload it as part of a login flow to an application.
Yeah, I don't do this. If your service demands my ID, I'll close my account. If you have KYC requirements, I'll meet you in person or find a different vendor.
Never worried about twitter ever again. Probably the healthier choice in the long run.
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I would much prefer my government to take on responsibility for providing this sort of service as they do e.g. driver qualification. Once upon a time the usual thing to get OK'd to rent a van (e.g. for students who are moving house) is you rock up to the rental place with the legal documents showing you're entitled to drive. You're relying on the fact that the person renting you a van doesn't much care and isn't keep…
I'd rather not subsidize roblox with government systems. If they can't figure out an age verification system that works thats on them. The government shouldn't be verifying the age of people for businesses. It's a waste of tax dollars to subsidize a business with major profits.
Though I applaud the effort to get age right and protect players, I'm not sure I'll ever be comfortable having me or my child scan our photo ID and selfie to upload it as part of a login flow to an application.
A component of my work is in digital identity, so I hope you don’t mind the question: what would make you comfortable doing so? For Roblox, I can see the exception taken, but some applications do require this level of identity proofing (scanning your passport in an airline mobile app to book an international flight comes to mind). Edit: Thank you everyone for your feedback, it’s very helpful!
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A component of my work is in digital identity, so I hope you don’t mind the question: what would make you comfortable doing so? For Roblox, I can see the exception taken, but some applications do require this level of identity proofing (scanning your passport in an airline mobile app to book an international flight comes to mind). Edit: Thank you everyone for your feedback, it’s very helpful!
Built-in watermark support. When the system eventually gets hacked and the pictures end up in the hands of hackers, their use will be limited due to a "COMPANY + DATE" watermark plastered all over.
The watermark isn't worth anything, and doesn't add any trust.