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Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

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You are clearly not a biker... otherwise you might have understood why EV motorcycles are years, maybe decades into the future. If you refer to e.g Asia where motorcycles are possibly your only transport, then sure; your argument is valid. But this is HN, and in Western countries a motorcycle is basically a hobby. Heck, they are often even more expensive to run than cars. So as to why EV bikes are not even close to b…

It is kind of inevitable in the long run if cars move on to being EVs, where will bikes fill up if there are no more gas stations? That being said, I’ve only ever seen one EV motorcycle in China once (not just a big electric bike), it had unreal acceleration, I’m not sure it would be safe to ride.

It'll be a long time before the whole car fleet turns over, and then you've got gasoline powered box vans and what not, too.

But as (or if) the liquid fuel demand drops, you'll probably see the density of stations drop too. Both fewer pumps per station and fewer stations. But I suspect most areas will have some gasoline availability for at least my lifetime. Worst case, auto parts stores will carry 5 gallon jugs prefilled with stabilized gasoline. That would get a motorcycle around quite a bit.

For old-timers who hang onto their classic gasoline powered cars, they might need to plan trips around fueling stations, like natural gas drivers and EV drivers currently do. (EV is easier, you can always bring a 110V charger and wait a long time)

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#93
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> Attaching your iPhone to vehicles with small-volume or electric engines, such as mopeds and scooters, may lead to comparatively lower-amplitude vibrations. No superbikes for you Apple users :D - recoils in anticipation of onslaught of downvotes - In all fairness I expect it's going to be difficult to design anything with such small delicate moving parts to be invulnerable to arbitrary frequency vibrations. It can a…

I think the problematic engines are big Harley twins which vibrate like hell and run relatively low revs. Superbikes engines are usually operate on high RPMs and vibrate less.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

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I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

I'm not commenting either way on the value of loud motorcycles here, but is this related to the article? It says the danger comes from mounting the phone directly to the bike. As far as I can tell, it doesn't say that the acoustic vibrations damage the phone. Would the muffled exhaust also reduce the physical vibrations of the frame?

Judging by the vibrations of my walls: yes. The sooner a maximum noise emitted law for vehicles goes into practice the better. I have a neihgbor here who goes out for small trips 20+ times per day on his HD. Open the garage door, take the bike out (running, of course), close the garage door, rev it a couple of times, wait for a few minutes for the engine to warm up, roar away at maximum volume. Return 10 minutes later, leave bike on the stand while opening the garage door. Turn off bike. Close garage door. Wait 1/2 hour or so, rinse, repeat. No idea what he's up to but it's not a normal usage pattern as far as I can see and I'd be a-ok with that if he would not make so much noise. Even with headphones on you can clearly hear it and the vibration is enough to rattle the cup on my desk. With noise cancelling on on the headphone I don't hear him.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

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I live about 5 miles (on the same road) as the local Harley Davidson dealership and would love it if HD riders left the stock pipes on their bikes. While the engines do vibrate, don't dismiss the additional concussive force of an unmuffled exhaust.

Loud pipes are annoying, but they won’t change the amount of vibration transmitted through the handlebars to a phone mount.

Yes, but the proximity is such that the soundwaves themselves could conceivably vibrate the case enough to do damage if it is in a partially enclosed space and facing out (because that way it gets pressure from only one side, essentially a reverse bass speaker).

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> Attaching your iPhone to vehicles with small-volume or electric engines, such as mopeds and scooters, may lead to comparatively lower-amplitude vibrations. No superbikes for you Apple users :D - recoils in anticipation of onslaught of downvotes - In all fairness I expect it's going to be difficult to design anything with such small delicate moving parts to be invulnerable to arbitrary frequency vibrations. It can a…

I think the problematic engines are big Harley twins which vibrate like hell and run relatively low revs. Superbikes engines are usually operate on high RPMs and vibrate less.

Quite possibly, in which case "No Harleys for you :D"

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#97
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For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

This doesn’t deserve to be downvoted. The statement is correct. I have a permanently destroyed right foot and ankle because someone made a left turn from the right lane just outside the Holland Tunnel in NJ back in 2004. The driver “didn’t see me” before making the illegal turn and planting his Mercedes horizontally across my lane as he slowed to enter the gas station driveway. I laid my quiet 800cc bike down and plo…

As someone mentioned above, most of the motorcycle muffler sound is projected backwards.

The louder is safety is just a myth to not comply. Most of it is ego and show off in my oppinion.

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The protective earplugs are to combat wind roar and hearing loss over a lifetime. The non-Harley folk wear them too.

Correct. My bike has a stock exhaust and sounds like a sewing machine, but I wear earplugs mostly to protect against the constant wind noise at speed.

Is that not accomplished by wearing a helmet? I haven't been on a motorcycle in over a decade, but I recall it being pretty quiet in the helmet.

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#99
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This doesn’t deserve to be downvoted. The statement is correct. I have a permanently destroyed right foot and ankle because someone made a left turn from the right lane just outside the Holland Tunnel in NJ back in 2004. The driver “didn’t see me” before making the illegal turn and planting his Mercedes horizontally across my lane as he slowed to enter the gas station driveway. I laid my quiet 800cc bike down and plo…

>back in 2004 >distracted by their phones Have the roads gotten more dangerous in the past 15 years? Also the issue people have with loud exhaust is not that it draws attention on the highway; it's that people use it as a tool to be obnoxious. When I lived in a small town I would regularly get woken up at 2am by some shmuck opening up on main street. The entire town would be woken up. I had the urge to chase them dow…

And that's the real reason. These toddler narcissists are out to make it known to the world that here rides a badass, not that there is someone who drives responsibly and whose life depends on the volume of their exhaust. It's pathetic.

Re: High-powered motorcycle vibrations might impact iPhone camera

#100
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the bikes being loud enough that everyone knows you’re coming is life and death issue on the road surrounded by huge cars and trucks

This doesn’t deserve to be downvoted. The statement is correct. I have a permanently destroyed right foot and ankle because someone made a left turn from the right lane just outside the Holland Tunnel in NJ back in 2004. The driver “didn’t see me” before making the illegal turn and planting his Mercedes horizontally across my lane as he slowed to enter the gas station driveway. I laid my quiet 800cc bike down and plo…

Folks here already decided they were too right for your experience. I hear you though.
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