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Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#91

Post by codethief »

This is the first time I'm hearing about the Framework laptop and… damn, it looks enticing.

Unfortunately, 13" is definitely too small for me (in terms of ergonomics). Are you planning on releasing models with a larger (and matte) screen in the future?

Also, could the keyboard "module" in theory be fully customized by the community (so as to support ergonomic layouts similar to ErgoDox, include a trackpoint etc.)?

Finally, why only 4 expansion slots? AFAIU there's no Thunderbolt card(?) yet, so I need every USB slot I can get my hands on and 2 (4 - 1 HDMI or DP slot - 1 PowerDelivery slot) would definitely not be enough!

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#93

Post by acomjean »

marcodiego wrote: post #20

“ There has been immense interest in this configuration, with it outselling pre-configured systems with Windows 10 by a wide margin.” There is a market.

When I looked to buy a linux laptop a couple years ago, my options were a few Dell Models, Lenovo (kindof) and system76.

Finding if model XX-YYZZ supported linux and then purchasing and installing myself seemed like something I didn't want to do. So having this page from the manufacturer which says these linux distros work and here are the pitfalls is very helpful.

You start to realize the problem is it seems to take a little while for hardware to get supported so linux laptops are always a little behind.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#94

Post by flowerlad »

I love how the storage expansion cards are easily replaceable by the user: https://frame.work/blog/storage-expansion-cards

Sadly it looks like the boot drive cannot be replaced in this manner. Many years ago I had a Compaq laptop with swappable boot drive. So one day you can boot Windows and the next day you can boot Linux. Without any external drives. (No messing with dual boot -- you replace the hard drive completely.) If this company offered a similar feature I would buy the laptop in half a second.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

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Post by sneakernets »

d0100 wrote: post #65

Will there be an option for a different keyboard? It's been some 10 years since everyone seemed to have settled on the "chiclet" style keyboards, to my own sadness

I can't type on a chiclet keyboard. I've tried. Until a laptop has a real keyboard again, I've had to stick with my 2011 T520.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#96

Post by nicoburns »

bastardoperator wrote: post #89
amarshall wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What laptops are you comparing to? When I compared to Lenovo X series and Dell XPS, Framework came out hundreds of dollars cheaper.

If we look at a maxed out dell xps 13 with ubuntu, the cost is $1,909.00 and I can probably squeak out some additional cost with my business account. If we look at a maxed out M1 Macbook Air it's $2,049.00 with 2TB of drive space. The maxed out frame.work costs $1,917.00 with a 100 dollar deposit and that doesn't have a drive in because I don't trust WD with my data. If we add a 2 TB drive the cost is $2,316.00 or $2…

It might still end up cheaper if you can say, buy less RAM today then upgrade in future when it's cheaper rather than needing to max it out today to future proof because it's soldered on.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#97

Post by intricatedetail »

bastardoperator wrote: post #48
lostapathy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I desperately want this to succeed as well. Enough that I've got a preorder that's supposed to ship this week. I'm willing to take the gamble. Sometimes you have to help fund the change you want to see in the world.

I can't see this succeeding when the laptop I have to assemble myself costs more than a prebuilt laptop with much better specs. I love the idea too, but the price seems a little outrageous.

Many companies use essentially slave labour and pass some of "savings" onto customers. Workers here couldn't live on 3rd world salaries. I would be outraged that those companies continue to exploit people.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#98

Post by lostapathy »

dheera wrote: post #35
lostapathy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt they have Newegg's purchasing power, at this juncture, and their prices really aren't unreasonable like they would be if you upgrade a Dell or Apple.

Oh sure but they could charge Newegg's price and just order from Newegg? I just feel like if I'm going to order any sort of "bundle" of items I should be getting a discount. Fundamental axiom of sales: price([A, B])

> Oh sure but they could charge Newegg's price and just order from Newegg?

Good way to not stay in business. At the very least, they need to mark it up enough to cover the credit card fees when they re-sell it, never mind the costs of the logistics of the resale operation.

Re: Linux on the Framework Laptop

#100

Post by ddoolin »

This looks like a great laptop, I will definitely consider it for my next one (or a personal one, which I lack). I'm assuming based on your hiring, made in Taiwan? Does anyone manufacture or assemble computers in the US?
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