Live data from Hacker News

Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

github.com

91–100 of 352 posts

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#91
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I enjoy some of his podcasts. Yeah some are a waste of time but many have been spectacular.

To be fair I would agree with you that some of his guests are great (e.g. Quentin Tarantino) and I do enjoy the long-form interviewing. But Rogan himself, to me, gives off bad vibes. Not really sincere or actually interested in his guests more than he is interested in himself. I find he'll say he's interested and come back with some show of how cultured and learned he is by bringing some obscure minutiae. I think he…

... Unaccomplished?

I've done a lot in my life. Enough to be proud of myself, if I may be so bold, but I'm nowhere near as accomplished as Joe Rogan; irrespective of how I or others may feel about him.

At the very least, he has impacted the lives of far more people than I, and given a platform to many others to do the same. I've impacted many, millions even, but I'm still nowhere near his capacity for influence.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Joe himself is an unaccomplished stoner… This is an interesting take. I personally find Joe Rogan to be an abhorrent human being that gives a platform to pseudoscientists and white supremacists, but I’ve never heard “his tens of millions of dollars are negated by the fact that he smokes weed” as a criticism. Out of curiosity, what value does Tim Ferris provide to society? I’m not being sarcastic, I just only know h…

Out of curiosity, who were the "psuedoscientists" and "white supremacists" you're accusing Joe of giving a platform to? Slanderous accusation to just drop and not expand on. Or is that what you call people that you don't agree with their scientific or political beliefs?

Off the top of my head Alex Jones comes to mind as both, but if we don’t agree on him I doubt we’ll agree on any part of this topic.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#93

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

I just want the advertisers to burn money paying for content I watch, but I don't want to see the ads.

That, or post-scarcity to finally happen, whichever cones first :).

I would be fine with adblock that fakes that I saw the ad without me having to wait for it to buffer.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#94
post #85

>yt-dlp is a youtube-dl fork based on the now inactive youtube-dlc. The main focus of this project is adding new features and patches while also keeping up to date with the original project yt-dlc's last commit was only 4 days ago, from the project owner. What are the advantages of each, and what about other forks out there?

The README covers most of these questions FYI

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, who were the "psuedoscientists" and "white supremacists" you're accusing Joe of giving a platform to? Slanderous accusation to just drop and not expand on. Or is that what you call people that you don't agree with their scientific or political beliefs?

Off the top of my head Alex Jones comes to mind as both, but if we don’t agree on him I doubt we’ll agree on any part of this topic.

Probably not. I'm not for blacklisting people based on their ideals and sanctioned topics.

I think you should talk people you disagree with, who wants an echo chamber?

Fight misinformation with more information, not censorship.

The laptop and lab leak censorship fiasco should have been an awakening to that.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#96
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

I pay for YouTube premium but still see them. That’s not OK, especially when the creators make 10x more money off YouTube Premium users than from ad-based users. YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users. As for why downloading, I download any/every video I find useful so I don’t have to go back to YouTube to watch it later. Everything from blender tutori…

> YouTube needs to make a way for creators to label the sponsor sections and it skips it for Premium users.

I have read that more and more creators use sponsored segments because that pays much better than YT revshare..

So they may not care about the Premium user experience as much, and if Premium lets people skip sponsored segements, that might drive down the overall segment viewership, AND increase Premium subscribers and then it's a lose-lose for the creator since those segments will be less and less valuable to the sponsor.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, who were the "psuedoscientists" and "white supremacists" you're accusing Joe of giving a platform to? Slanderous accusation to just drop and not expand on. Or is that what you call people that you don't agree with their scientific or political beliefs?

Off the top of my head Alex Jones comes to mind as both, but if we don’t agree on him I doubt we’ll agree on any part of this topic.

I thought it was telling that Rogan tends to pair Jones with another guest who is ... obviously out to lunch. The last time I saw he had AJ on he was sitting beside a flat earther. Having the two together made both look as ridiculous as they really are.

That said, he's had too many questionable dieticians, anti-vaxxers, and such that he leaves unquestioned and unchallenged. To say nothing of his poor history with gender issues.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#98
post #94
post #85

>yt-dlp is a youtube-dl fork based on the now inactive youtube-dlc. The main focus of this project is adding new features and patches while also keeping up to date with the original project yt-dlc's last commit was only 4 days ago, from the project owner. What are the advantages of each, and what about other forks out there?

The README covers most of these questions FYI

The above quotation is from README.md in the yt-dlp repository, which does list some differences, but I get the sense this is not the full story.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#99
post #74
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it apparent to the sponsor when someone is watching using youtube-dlp versus a regular view? I'd imagine most sponsored segments are negotiated based on subscriber count or view numbers.

I don't believe the view counter gets incremented when using any unofficial front-end/downloader.

How would Google's backend know whether the traffic comes from their own frontend vs a utility like youtube-dl (assume for the sake of argument that the utility is trying to make the traffic look like normal YouTube traffic)?

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#100
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

For about 20 years most everything was supported on nothing but some person's own desire to put themselves out into the world. This meant spending out of their own pocket if necessary. If hosting became too much of a bandwidth issue for them to be able to pay for hosting they would release it as a torrent and it would become shared and distributed peer2peer or they'd throw it up on a free file share and the it became the file sharing platform's problem to deal with the bandwidth and try to collect (typically through member-only "premium download speeds").

In the past 10 years or so quality has largely gone down and annoyances like ads and sponsor shoutouts have gone up to the extent "Sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends" is an actual meme. There are very, very few content creators I feel are worth supporting. This ends up being a bit classist as mostly people with enough personal cash flow and free time can afford to become full-time content creators but by and large that's already kind of the case if you look at the people who become full-time content creators. But I personally feel that if your content is more of the "popcorn" variety that people use to fill their day but don't actually value compared to something people do value then the world at large isn't missing out. If enough people felt they would miss out - they'd pay to keep it around.

There are plenty of content creators I watch where I would not be all that sad if they vanished and they stopped creating content - because I use their content to fill gaps of boredom in my day and not because I place any significant value in their content. Then there are a few I absolutely do value and I already support them when possible. I assume ones without a method to directly support them are OK with losing some revenue to ad-blockers and the like. I have absolutely let personal opportunities of collecting cash slide past me because I weighed the effort to collect it to be greater than it was worth so I assume the reason they haven't opened up a way to donate to them directly is for similar reasons.

I consider ads to be psychological warfare and something that should (but never will) be illegal if they are designed to be emotionally manipulative in any way. If a dry, boring informercial doesn't inspire you to buy their product then it probably isn't worth buying howdy. I feel absolutely nothing bad about blocking them.

Post reply on HN