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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

This has been my experience as well. Another commenter mentioned this but I also feel like guests have been less interesting since the move to Austin. I used to be a daily listener now I feel like it can be months between interesting episodes.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#92
post #49

I have a Spotify subscription. I used to watch Joe on YouTube. I haven't since he moved. I use Spotify at work to have something to drown out the noise around me. I watch YouTube to relax. My habits mean I don't even think of going to Spotify for a podcast.

Looks like I was mistaken - there is a JRE channel but it may be just clips

Not exactly. He no longer posts full episodes to YouTube, just occasional clips:

https://www.youtube.com/user/PowerfulJRE

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#93

Just like Howard Stern (note, SiriusXM also owns Spotify). They traded a broader audience and greater influence for stability and gigantic paychecks. E.g., in Howard's case, even though his personal influence shrunk, his importance to Sirius/Spotify grew as a fraction of the subscriber base is dedicated to one talent and would otherwise unsubscribe. Howard's deal has been renewed a number of times now. I can't blame…

Stern tried to adapt, and with a degree of success. He came from the "Shock Jock", Andrew Dice Clay era, but shifted in recent years to become much softer and "woke".

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#95

All regular media consumption is down, ratings for all news is down, I think we're all suffering from social media consumption fatigue, and there's is also an explosion of podcasts to listen to now. The Economist has daily 45 minutes, Conan O'Brien is on audio only etc.. And he might actually have a broader audience than before, does it matter that much that guests 'new follower' metrics are down? I think there's a b…

> All regular media consumption is down, ratings for all news is down, I think we're all suffering from social media consumption fatigue

A quick google search seems to contradict this. Can you point me towards a source that backs these claims?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#96
post #49

I have a Spotify subscription. I used to watch Joe on YouTube. I haven't since he moved. I use Spotify at work to have something to drown out the noise around me. I watch YouTube to relax. My habits mean I don't even think of going to Spotify for a podcast.

Looks like I was mistaken - there is a JRE channel but it may be just clips

I used to sit down and watch an hour or two of a full interview. I've not done so since I'd have to use Spotify to watch a full interview.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#97
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm paying Spotify Premium and still have to listen ads during the show. I have Spotify and don't listen to podcasts much at all. When I have, it hasn't been on Spotify and I've always been able to skip through the recording to get past the ad (either with a "skip fwd 15 secs" button or by grabbing the slider and moving it manually). Does Spotify not offer that capability?

They’ve made it simple to skip ads because each ad pops up as a track that you can scrobble to the end of. I assume they’re satisfied with this because my dragging my finger across the name of the advertiser is probably a better signal of impression than hoping I was actually present during the ad roll. But Apple podcasts “skip 15sec” is still easier, I can do it without looking while driving.

>each ad pops up as a track that you can scrobble to the end of

The first time this happened to me (while loading up a Joe Rogan podcast), I legitimately thought Spotify was glitching out. There's no visual indication in the app that it's a temporary ad, or of how many ads you have to listen to before the episode starts. I made it to the beginning of the third ad track before giving up.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#98
post #3

This seemed like the obvious trap he was going to fall into. I used to listen to him when he interviewed someone I was interested in. I even installed Spotify so I can access his podcast. In practice, because I don’t use Spotify for anything else, I have simply forgotten about him.

"This seemed like the obvious trap he was going to fall into."

He cashed in before his expiration date. Brilliant move.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#99
post #72

When he moved to Spotify I suppose I'll get his podcasts from torrents, but then I end up finding far more interesting podcasts to replace him. After all if any of his episodes are interesting I can just listen them two years later.

Any recommendations you can offer for interesting podcasts?

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this makes more sense for Stern because his audience is much narrower than Rogan's. Stern moving from terrestrial radio gave him more "freedom," whereas the same can't be said for Rogan. also, Stern took the deal when he had been established voice in radio for decades, whereas Rogan was (to my understanding) just reaching his height of popularity before the exclusivity deal began.

> this makes more sense for Stern because his audience is much narrower than Rogan's. In what way was Stern's audience narrower at all than Rogan's? Stern narrowed his audience when he moved to Sirius, but so did Rogan, apparently. When Stern was in syndication and on E!, he had as general an audience as any radio personality (back when people listened to the radio.) Rogan has a very narrow demographic as far as I ca…

> Rogan has a very narrow demographic as far as I can see, and virtually that entire demo is a subset of who listened to or watched Stern during what was something like a 15 year long peak.

really? I was under the impression that Rogan skewed much younger. (at least compared to the Stern audience when he made his platform jump.) and sure Stern narrowed his audience when he moved to satellite, but wasn't he already a bit past his prime at that point?

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