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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by jchw »

finiteseries wrote: post #82
wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

I created an account in May 2021 without a phone number to follow some people without blogs etc, and it’s still working with just a disposable email. They’ve added sign in/up with Google & Apple recently though.

You can get away with that on a residential IP sometimes, but don’t count on it. Log in from the wrong location or a VPN or do certain patterns of behavior and it drops you.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by silicon2401 »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #4

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

Reddit is unusable without which app, the official one? Because I've been on reddit for a decade and never once used their app. It's either reddit is fun on android or the browser. Never had a problem. Even if you don't have an account, old.reddit.com and i.reddit.com (for mobile) bypass all the atrocious new UI changes

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by Spivak »

_dujt wrote: post #80
miohtama wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a research how much phone number verification decreases account fraud a.k.a. spam bots http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.co...

Of course, in order to help out the unfortunate website operators, people should willingly give up pii that the same companies have shown they don’t give a damn about protecting. /s

I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Like seriously I’ve implemented at a company I worked for and it’s the least invasive thing to actually rate limit people.

Alternatives included:

- pay a small fee but that requires a credit card

  - send us government documents which is worse

  - mine crypto for a while but it doesn’t stop people who are actually motivated

  - send a selfie and then do some face matching, also worse.
Like what other things can we ask for that actually work and aren’t more invasive?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#96

Post by est31 »

vxNsr wrote: post #89
miohtama wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is a research how much phone number verification decreases account fraud a.k.a. spam bots http://static.googleusercontent.com/media/research.google.co...

So maybe don’t require an account to view tweets, or don’t let me tweet until I provide phone number but still let me view… lots of options

But then they don't get data on which tweets you viewed.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by queuebert »

StevePerkins wrote: post #77
enumjorge wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh maybe. The problem is that IMO there aren’t any obvious alternatives to Reddit. I remember when Digg committed suicide with a pretty bad redesign and most disgruntled users moved to Reddit. I’ve been pretty annoyed with the changes Reddit has implemented in the past couple of years, but I haven’t found another place to go (that’s not necessarily a bad thing). HN is the closest alternative but the scope of topics w…

My Reddit habit has been all but replaced with private Slacks and Discords these days. Either hobby / interest groups, or an "alumni Slack" full of old work friends from a company I worked at a long time. I think that's the future, for geeks and nerds anyway. Small private forums, where you can actually have real discussions without getting drowned in memes and downvotes. For the masses, I think the cement is pretty…

Ok, shows over. Everyone back to IRC.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by icehawk »

mattowen_uk wrote: post #36

I've literally just spent a couple of hours integrating Nitter.net's RSS feed into my custom feed reader. Why a couple of hours? Because Nitter for some reason returns a 404 header instead of 200 when it gives you the RSS feed data. Consequently stuff like PHPs file_get_contents() and curl_exec() return absolutely nothing... took me ages (via trying to shell out to curl, and then back to using the lib again) before I…

I've found that only happens when you're not doing GET:

curl https://nitter.1d4.us/newsycombinator/rss

  2620::2218 - - [24/Aug/2021:11:32:56 -0400] "GET /newsycombinator/rss HTTP/2.0" 200 12985 "-" "curl/7.64.1"
vs

curl --head https://nitter.1d4.us/newsycombinator/rss

  2620::2218 - - [24/Aug/2021:11:33:57 -0400] "HEAD /newsycombinator/rss HTTP/2.0" 404 0 "-" "curl/7.64.1"

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#100

Post by deadbunny »

StevePerkins wrote: post #77
enumjorge wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh maybe. The problem is that IMO there aren’t any obvious alternatives to Reddit. I remember when Digg committed suicide with a pretty bad redesign and most disgruntled users moved to Reddit. I’ve been pretty annoyed with the changes Reddit has implemented in the past couple of years, but I haven’t found another place to go (that’s not necessarily a bad thing). HN is the closest alternative but the scope of topics w…

My Reddit habit has been all but replaced with private Slacks and Discords these days. Either hobby / interest groups, or an "alumni Slack" full of old work friends from a company I worked at a long time. I think that's the future, for geeks and nerds anyway. Small private forums, where you can actually have real discussions without getting drowned in memes and downvotes. For the masses, I think the cement is pretty…

> Slacks and Discords

I find these terrible for any kind of information discovery. I hate that so many communities are using them as an alternative to a subreddit or focused forum. Hell most "modern" forum software is horrific as well.

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