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How to Remember What You Read

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Re: How to Remember What You Read

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I don't understand where advice like finishing the book is optional comes from. Anyone who's ever written anything of some length and gone through the publishing process with copy editors would recognize that stories are told in coherent pieces. If a book isn't meant to be finished it isn't meant to be read. Move on.

Re: How to Remember What You Read

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve heard that the Remarkable does not function well as a reader. Is that true?

This is just subjective, but I use it to read many books and enjoy it. I can scribble / highlight / notetake very easily and find the whole experience quite convenient. Where did you hear that?

Oh, I was just reading reviews (probably on reddit?), and that seemed to be a consistent opinion. It looks like a really cool device, but I've heard it's a little one-dimensional.

Edit: Looks like your link to the sibling comment is for extracting annotations from pdf. Are most of the books you're reading on remarkable in pdf format instead of epub?

Re: How to Remember What You Read

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just subjective, but I use it to read many books and enjoy it. I can scribble / highlight / notetake very easily and find the whole experience quite convenient. Where did you hear that?

Oh, I was just reading reviews (probably on reddit?), and that seemed to be a consistent opinion. It looks like a really cool device, but I've heard it's a little one-dimensional. Edit: Looks like your link to the sibling comment is for extracting annotations from pdf. Are most of the books you're reading on remarkable in pdf format instead of epub?

Yeah usually I read in PDF format for this purpose. Not sure but maybe there are alternatives for epub.

Re: How to Remember What You Read

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If the book is on surgical techniques... do I need to apply every technique to remember it? Obviously, "applying" book knowledge is one of the least efficient or practicable way of improving retention. Also, it would be more around understanding the topics more thoroughly, especially if the author didn't do a good enough job of explaining the concepts already (it's easier to blame the reader, though).

Yeah I could expand on this some more. If a book is on surgical techniques then yeah you need some practice. Surgeons don’t get trained from books. I certainly wouldn’t want to be operated on by someone that only reads about operations. I think some of this is around what it means to understand a topic. Is it just about an ability to regurgitate facts or maybe you want a book to really sink in because you don’t know…

Odds are, I have studied the topic of learning techniques to a much deeper degree than you are. I also studied veterinary medicine. Therefor I can say: Yes, surgeons will know most of what they know from reading books or consuming learning materials, not from practicing. Some surgeons might disagree, but this really is the case.

And you would want to be operated on by surgeons who are trained that way. Especially in Human medicine, "practice" is just too damn expensive. And routine surgical tasks just don't teach you all the shit that go wrong. Also, surgical procedures, especially when you consider all their variations or complications, have a long tail problem. Some things are just really rare.

There is a reason why surgeries are performed by doctors, and not by nurses. Doctors have so much knowledge and information in their head - most of it not acquired through practice, contrary to romantic belief, but rather through long hours over years of studying. We often need to "debug" a living organism. But we can't say "hm, let's run this again".

Re: How to Remember What You Read

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I could expand on this some more. If a book is on surgical techniques then yeah you need some practice. Surgeons don’t get trained from books. I certainly wouldn’t want to be operated on by someone that only reads about operations. I think some of this is around what it means to understand a topic. Is it just about an ability to regurgitate facts or maybe you want a book to really sink in because you don’t know…

Odds are, I have studied the topic of learning techniques to a much deeper degree than you are. I also studied veterinary medicine. Therefor I can say: Yes, surgeons will know most of what they know from reading books or consuming learning materials, not from practicing. Some surgeons might disagree, but this really is the case. And you would want to be operated on by surgeons who are trained that way. Especially in…

Interesting, and perhaps I'm misunderstanding something. Are they really expected to have knowledge they got from a book, that they might have read years ago?

Re: How to Remember What You Read

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I built a webapp and a startup to do that :D Students report that they learn from 1.5x to twice as fast if they highlight with our tool by themselves, 2x to 3x+ if the content is already curated by a peer. It's highlighting with text extraction into a pyramid structure, patented in the EU, pending in the US. Would be interested in feedback should anyone be willing to try: https://kjuicer.com You can use it on html pages or put content inside the editor. It can't import yet. Please ping me if you need help using it.

Re: How to Remember What You Read

#97
post #55

Nabokov's solution to this dilemma, reread. The only good reader is, as he said, a re-reader. If we're honest nobody can actually remember more than a dozen books, and if you pick the right ones there's more to learn in any of them than you can learn in years. It's similar to the sentiment that the only way to understand a poem is to be able to recite it from memory, or the fact that some pianists play nothing else b…

> Umberto Eco once pointed out that the size of the unknown, the books one has not read are magnitudes larger than the books one has read If anyone else is wondering, it's in his book encyclopedia of imaginary lands

I think you mean The Book of Legendary Lands by Umberto Eco. Encyclopedia of Imaginary places is a different book by Theresa Bane.
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