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Re: Give to Thunderbird

#91

Post by abdullahkhalids »

aidenn0 wrote: post #86
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How heavy is davmail on the system? I am always a little paranoid about java apps. Can you accept/reject meeting invites with it? The Tbsync extension that I am using does not have this feature.

It uses about half a GB of ram when actively running on my system. CPU usage is fine except when I sync an IMAP folder that has over 10k or so messages, at which point it does pin one CPU. [edit] I noticed I'm running it with "java -Xmx512M" which probably explains the half-GB of ram usage. It's possible that if I increased that value it would perform better with large folders, but I keep my inbox fairly reasonable a…

Thanks. I am not going to use 500 MB of my RAM for this one thing.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#92

Post by aidenn0 »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #91
aidenn0 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It uses about half a GB of ram when actively running on my system. CPU usage is fine except when I sync an IMAP folder that has over 10k or so messages, at which point it does pin one CPU. [edit] I noticed I'm running it with "java -Xmx512M" which probably explains the half-GB of ram usage. It's possible that if I increased that value it would perform better with large folders, but I keep my inbox fairly reasonable a…

Thanks. I am not going to use 500 MB of my RAM for this one thing.

You can certainly try running it with a smaller heap, some of the modern java GCs can run at very close to 100% heap utilization.

Also, FWIW, it's the 10th largest item in my top listing, with even Thunderbird using more RAM (850MB). I suspect mutt, offlineimap and davmail would combine to be smaller than TB alone.

[edit]

Also consider getting your employer to buy you more RAM? A 32GB SO-DIMM kit from corsair is under $200, so nobody should have to worry about half a gig on their work machine...

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#93

Post by cweagans »

dotancohen wrote: post #64

If your company uses Office 365, these guys have a plugin that I think parses the HTML website to get your mail (and calendar!) into Thunderbird: https://www.beonex.com/owl/ Just this week I gave them 10 Euros for the addon because my company refuses to enable IMAP for Office 365. I'm not affiliated with them, but I've been using the Tbird addon for a few weeks and it works perfectly. The license is per-year, though…

See https://sourceforge.net/projects/davmail/ for a FOSS solution (similar approach, but it lives outside of Thunderbird).

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#94

Post by dannyobrien »

cweagans wrote: post #93
dotancohen wrote: post #64

If your company uses Office 365, these guys have a plugin that I think parses the HTML website to get your mail (and calendar!) into Thunderbird: https://www.beonex.com/owl/ Just this week I gave them 10 Euros for the addon because my company refuses to enable IMAP for Office 365. I'm not affiliated with them, but I've been using the Tbird addon for a few weeks and it works perfectly. The license is per-year, though…

See https://sourceforge.net/projects/davmail/ for a FOSS solution (similar approach, but it lives outside of Thunderbird).

DavMail was a life saver when I was in an Outlook Web Access office a few years ago.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#95

Post by neurotrace »

I used Thunderbird for a very long time but recently stopped. Every update has made it slower, breaks a host of extensions, and the Google Calendar integration is consistently broken no matter which solution I use. I really, really want to use Thunderbird but email and calendar need to Just Work. I can't keep fixing it every time they push out an update

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#96

Post by zerocrates »

jabroni_salad wrote: post #75
FreakyT wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, it’s the security team’s idiotic position on IMAP that prompted the parent commenter to find a workaround. It’s like how having super draconian password reset and complexity requirements ends up being less secure because users will start writing their impossible-to-remember passwords on post-it notes.

The IMAP blocking is for different draconian reasons. Office365 does not support Modern Auth with IMAP, which is considered a security baseline now.

I'm pretty sure they do? I definitely set up a O365 account in Thunderbird using IMAP and OAuth, which I assume is sufficiently "modern auth."

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#97

Post by Rd6n6 »

gnuarch wrote: post #24

On GNU/Linux Thunderbird ist my favourite GUI mail client, offering support for a variety of standards, including e.g. CalDAV (CardDAV in Beta), OpenPGP and S/MIME. Not sure whether Chat should be part of it, currently offering Google Talk, IRC, Odnoklassniki, and XMPP (Twitter finally gone). Support for Usenet News is appreciated, though I enjoy Pan. On GNU/Linux I thus consider GNOME Evolution as best alternative.…

I tried a lot of alternatives to thunderbird on linux for mail/calendar/contacts. Every single one had a severe issue at some point with something (timeline problems, losing events, can’t sync contacts, privacy issue for one paid app). Thunderbird is just wonderful though and deserves support

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#98

Post by cossatot »

bjarneh wrote: post #73
jrm4 wrote: post #61

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HOLD the phone. Can we confirm this? If so, this 100% furthers my idea of "Stop thinking of tech billionaires of being helpfully creative to the world and having imaginations, they are the exact opposite." If a normal person were also a billionaire, they'd stop for half a second and call someone and say "hey, make sure Thunderbird is good for forever." These people can't think that way, they're hampered by the mental…

https://twitter.com/topherolson/status/745294977064828929

As discussed in the comments it looks like the Cisco VPN client (when I zoom in I think it's that and not Thunderbird, too): https://twitter.com/andrewheumann/status/745332192457396224

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#99

Post by wolverine876 »

pizza234 wrote: post #72
mkl wrote: post #8

I use Thunderbird, and have for a very long time. Unfortunately, the new development and progress is gradually breaking more and more extensions, making it less useful to me as time goes on. Bizarrely, the donation page thinks I'm in the UK, when I'm almost as far as possible away from there.

> Unfortunately, the new development and progress is gradually breaking more and more extensions, making it less useful to me as time goes on. I have very strong suspicions about the engineering quality of their work (but can't confirm). With the recent version, v78, they did broke extensions again, however, something very smell is the policy that they've adopted - the new replacement APIs are incomplete and experime…

Maybe they just lack the resources to do all that work.

Re: Give to Thunderbird

#100

Post by zem »

bjarneh wrote: post #73
jrm4 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HOLD the phone. Can we confirm this? If so, this 100% furthers my idea of "Stop thinking of tech billionaires of being helpfully creative to the world and having imaginations, they are the exact opposite." If a normal person were also a billionaire, they'd stop for half a second and call someone and say "hey, make sure Thunderbird is good for forever." These people can't think that way, they're hampered by the mental…

https://twitter.com/topherolson/status/745294977064828929

looks more like he's standing near some random engineer's desk, and had that area temporarily cleared for the photo
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