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The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by megablast »

alin23 wrote: post #26
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #18

Great write-up and a fun read. I was caught off guard by this note: > the delivery guy called me about a laptop: the custom configured M1 MacBook Pro that costed as much as 7 junior developer monthly salaries has arrived! I tried the MacBook Pro configurator and could only get up to $2300 USD (excluding optional software like Logic Pro). I’m sure the price and taxation are higher in the author’s country, but I still…

When I got my first job as a Junior Malware Researcher, I was earning $422 per month. That times 7 is exactly the cost of the MacBook Pro I got (1TB SSD, 16GB RAM) Yes, I live in Romania, and salaries have been increasing a bit but they're still a joke for junior devs.

Are they a joke compared to a waiter??

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by justin66 »

Teknoman117 wrote: post #33
FireBeyond wrote: post #30

Apple seems to be making a lot of display related things difficult lately. This, and Display Stream Compression are two. Just as high refresh and HDR were becoming really mainstream, Big Sur completely broke what was working flawlessly in Catalina (and it has not been fixed as of either 11.5, or the Monterey betas so far - and by completely broke, I mean does not work, at all, for anybody, not just 'some edge case').…

If your livelihood isn't dependent on that kind of a display, personally, I would try to avoid falling into their trap. I'd call it anti-competitive to have previously supported an industry standard, only to then remove that support and push their product as the only way to achieve an equivalent to that standard. I'm not saying the ProDisplay XDR isn't a good screen, or even overpriced in the class of displays it liv…

> Telling all the people who want HDR to go buy a $5,000 display they don't need is a bit of a mean spirited move.

Plus an extra $1,000 for the stand to mount it. That never stops being funny.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by mateioprea »

birdyrooster wrote: post #90
alin23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I got my first job as a Junior Malware Researcher, I was earning $422 per month. That times 7 is exactly the cost of the MacBook Pro I got (1TB SSD, 16GB RAM) Yes, I live in Romania, and salaries have been increasing a bit but they're still a joke for junior devs.

Can you rent an apartment for like $100/mo or less there?

I don’t know about Brasov, but in Bucharest and Cluj which are both big cities in Romania, one average bedroom apartment 54msq, starts from $400.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by bredren »

fartcannon wrote: post #65

It's appalling that something like this necessary.

It would be nice if it just worked, however I’d rather MacOs folks work to fill out the complete functionality if Spaces.

Spaces, the multiple desktops, single monitor feature of MacOs has been neglected for too long.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by pabs3 »

colordrops wrote: post #83
pabs3 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get bored of the polling, there is a tool that does this in an event driven way: https://github.com/haimgel/display-switch/ https://haim.dev/posts/2020-07-28-dual-monitor-kvm/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24357308

Nice thank you. I was originally using udev and launchd to drive actions based on events, but they took up to 10 seconds to switch. A purpose built tool would like the ones you linked I assume would not have that problem.

I haven't used it, but the blog post makes it sound like it is instant.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by jazzyjackson »

FireBeyond wrote: post #30

Apple seems to be making a lot of display related things difficult lately. This, and Display Stream Compression are two. Just as high refresh and HDR were becoming really mainstream, Big Sur completely broke what was working flawlessly in Catalina (and it has not been fixed as of either 11.5, or the Monterey betas so far - and by completely broke, I mean does not work, at all, for anybody, not just 'some edge case').…

Why not roll back to Catalina? Mac recovery menu has the option to reinstall the OS that shipped with the machine.

What I don’t know is if you’re allowed to selectively upgrade to, say, the latest version of Catalina. But you can pick and choose updates, so maybe?

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by visarga »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #25
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #18

Great write-up and a fun read. I was caught off guard by this note: > the delivery guy called me about a laptop: the custom configured M1 MacBook Pro that costed as much as 7 junior developer monthly salaries has arrived! I tried the MacBook Pro configurator and could only get up to $2300 USD (excluding optional software like Logic Pro). I’m sure the price and taxation are higher in the author’s country, but I still…

Dev says right at the top of the entry that they are writing from Romania. Quick Google shows an average software dev salary of 4800 USD per year. If that’s average, seems like 7x monthly of a junior salary checks out.

It's about 1500 USD/month which comes out around 18K/year

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by visarga »

quicklime wrote: post #72
alin23 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I got my first job as a Junior Malware Researcher, I was earning $422 per month. That times 7 is exactly the cost of the MacBook Pro I got (1TB SSD, 16GB RAM) Yes, I live in Romania, and salaries have been increasing a bit but they're still a joke for junior devs.

It always blows my mind when I compare the value of my company's MacBook Pros to the salaries of our offshore developers. Having said that, when I look at a fully spec'd out Mac Pro, it comes out to $54,000. Add in a fully spec'd out Pro Display XDR, which is another $7k, and that's $61k. According to levels.fyi, L3/E3/ICT2 SWEs at Google/Facebook/Apple get a salary of ~$130k, so just under 6 months of an American ju…

With 60$K you can also get a Lambda box wiht 8GPUs, 16 CPU cores and 256Gb system memory (plus 8x48GB VRAM on the GPUs). You can't train GPT-3 with it but just about anything else.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by rfolstad »

Is it a big secret that m1 macs don’t work with external monitors?? The problem has been getting worse with each new forced update.

Using my monitor via HDMI and apples 100$ dongle it constantly turns off randomly and will not come back on without unplug and plug back in.

Everything else is great but after like 5 updates that claim to fix the issue but still having issues maybe apple should make some notification about the problem so people don’t buy this if they have serious work they need to get done.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Post by alin23 »

throwanem wrote: post #68
nicoburns wrote: post #49

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It doesn't sound like it works very well

That it works at all is a major improvement, and the Raspberry Pi method is worth having as well; I've been working on something very similar since I got my M1 Mini and found ddcctl and Lunar unable to work there, but got little further than building the light sensor before other projects took priority - I expect I'll probably finish this one around the equinox. My work laptop, an Intel Mac, displays to and controls…

Hey, thank you for the support!

I completely understand when users go with something more simple like a CLI or MonitorControl. I do the same myself when I don’t really need the features of a complex app.

By the way, I’m not sure if I understood correctly but if you need an external ambient light sensor, Lunar supports that out of the box now: https://lunar.fyi/sensor

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