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Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by css »

jjjgcddf wrote: post #39
css wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slack threads don’t (or at least, didn’t; it’s been a couple years) show in the main message feed, they show when you expand the thread into the sidebar. In the feed, it shows the original message with an “n replies” text below it. In Mattermost, new replies show as normal messages in your feed with a bit of context for what they’re replying to, and clicking on the context expands the full thread in a sidebar. I find…

You might not have noticed but your link goes to the new design (in beta) of collapsed threads which are much more similar to Slack's and I think this has caused some confusion in this thread It's worth noting that the design you prefer isn't being deprecated; Slack-style threads are being added as a user display option.

Oops, yeah. Looks like there are not really any docs for the existing (better) system: https://docs.mattermost.com/messaging/sending-receiving-mess...

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by dorchadas »

WorldMaker wrote: post #57
ferdowsi wrote: post #6

Is there really no better design for "aside" conversations than this? People lean on Slack threads too much, leading to a confused flow of conversation that makes it extremely difficult to piece together how the discussion was ended or resolved.

I kind of feel similar. I already thought that the Replies feature was a better compromise for a chat room than Slack's threads (which I hated because so much conversation would just "disappear" from channels only to find out it was still happening in a thread from days or weeks before), but I'm also in several Discords that migrated from Slack and I know how many of my friends have been complaining that they missed…

> They have moderation mentioned front and center, so that feels good to me that they kept it strongly in mind.

What's annoying about this is it was sprung, default on, with no warning. I'm a mod (not the owner) of a server that got them, and we weren't given the permissions to disable them from @everyone, only the admin can do that at first. And he's not currently been on because of time zone differences. Which means it's just an easy open vector for someone to come in an raid and just cause chaos. They should've had it off by default, at least for a few days to let server owners experiment and play around with it.

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by buzer »

aerovistae wrote: post #82
whall6 wrote: post #29

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Agreed. Slack threads are unbearable.

I guess I would have to use Flowdock to understand -- those gifs were confusing and unclear to me. I'm not sure what I was looking at. Personally I find slack threads perfectly usable and helpful for keeping things organized for the most part. What's the issue with them? I found them a revolutionary step forward in chat UX to be honest, something that had been missing for 20 years or more.

My experience is from ~2 years ago so things may have changed a bit.

Essentially there is a default view which contains all messages as usual. Each message also has a symbol next to it. If it's grey message bubble, it's a message that is not tied to any thread (it can be replied to to start a new thread. Previously if no other messages have appeared on channel so far, it can be dragged & dropped to another thread). If it's colored message bubble, it's the first message in the thread. A colored arrow means it's part of the thread with that color.

This allows you to mostly just stay in default view with all of the channel's messages. As long as people are putting the messages in the thread itself, you could quickly use the colors to see which thread the message is on (color collisions did happen, but they were fairly rare). You would need to open the thread only if you needed more context or wanted to reply to it, though replying can also be done by writing to channel & dragging the message to thread.

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by remram »

ghostpepper wrote: post #79

Off topic but here's another feature that really shouldn't take 2 years to implement - only showing "In game" status on some servers, vs the current all-or-nothing approach. https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/3600483...

Running two instances of Discord is not too complicated (at least on Linux) and might work well to separate your professional and gaming accounts. You only have to be careful of invite links, which will open in the first Discord you run.

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by MrStonedOne »

Fun fact:

They granted create threads to everybody by default but granted manage threads to nobody by default.

So we had moderators who could delete channels, delete create and modify roles and role permissions, and delete messages as well as ban/kick users, but couldn't manage or delete threads.

"public threads" show up in the main channel list to everybody as a sub channel, and everybody had permission to create and name them what ever they wanted, but nobody could delete them until i logged in and gave it to my mods.

Realllllllllly well done roll out discord.

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by remexre »

binarymax wrote: post #28

The ideal thread implementation is in Flowdock (which not many people have heard of or use), but it's really the best of both worlds. Everything is a single stream of messages, and you can optionally group things as threads. There is a really nice blending of the two. Here's their implementation and you can see how well this works in practice. http://blog.flowdock.com/2017/08/31/the-1-customer-request-h... Far far be…

Zulip approximately does this too, right?

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by zucked »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #74
SECProto wrote: post #43

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I don't think that's reasonable and it's very unlikely that "chats" are going away. I've been using chat apps since that person was in their mid-to-late 30s. Newsgroups were around a decade before that. The relatives I have in their 90s know how to use Hangouts. Being 60 isn't an excuse in my opinion

Back about 18y ago there was, er, Trillian (?) and you could have all your chats in one UI at least. If I were in charge chat apps would have to use federation with an open interchange format (RIP XMPP). I think XMPP and Trillian might still be going but once Facebook, Microsoft and Google stopped playing nicely ...

Oh, man, the good old days of Trillian. Yeah, you could be signed into multiple AIM accounts, MSN, ICQ, maybe others later on. It was a total game changer.

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by wffurr »

This looks non-terrible, unlike Slack threads or the abominations that are MS Teams and Google Chat. The thread is moved out of the main conversation view and gets its own entry nested under the channel.

Re: Discord Launches Threads

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Post by i_am_proteus »

MrStonedOne wrote: post #95

Fun fact: They granted create threads to everybody by default but granted manage threads to nobody by default. So we had moderators who could delete channels, delete create and modify roles and role permissions, and delete messages as well as ban/kick users, but couldn't manage or delete threads. "public threads" show up in the main channel list to everybody as a sub channel, and everybody had permission to create an…

This happened to me, moderating a server, while our only admin was on vacation.

I was able to remove "create thread" permissions from the default role, effectively turning threads off. But first I had to add a new role to grant myself those permissions. I also had to ask people who had created threads to please delete them because I still can't.

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