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Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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> I heard him make the claim that Clubhouse has bigger potential than text-based social platforms, because talking has less friction than writing Finding people that talk about stuff is one thing, finding people who like to listen to other people talking is the other. Unfortunately, listening has much higher friction than reading.

On the other hand both YouTube channels and podcasts have found a spoken audience. And YouTube is often just someone(s) talking (eg PBS Space Time) that could easily be a podcast.

SpaceTime has AMAZING graphics though, I don't think it's the best example of a channel that would not lose quality on an audio only format.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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The thing that you notice almost immediately is that the vast majority of people suck at the medium of Clubhouse. It’s like scrolling through an endless list of the worst podcasts in the world.

Dumbassery regarding being IOS only and invite only resulted me never trying it and I no longer care to try it, the hype is over

Exactly. My first introduction to Clubhouse was when some startup guy at a Hackathon I was attending in Windsor, ON mentioned that he "bought and carries an iPhone just for clubhouse," and said that we (broke college students) should buy iPhones too so we can "network" on Clubhouse. I promptly lost all interest in the app.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…

Audio is fairly unique in that it's a medium that can be consumed and created while doing something else.

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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I joined CH in January, and I initially felt the same sense of excitement I felt when I first joined Twitter in early 2008 and started connecting with new, likeminded people. But that excitement died off within about two weeks, once I realised how little really interesting discussion there was. There were some highlights, and I still dip in now and again when a compelling name pops up, but it's mostly pretty uninspir…

> Sure, most people are comfortable spending plenty of time chatting with one person or a small group of trusted people, but far fewer people are comfortable talking in a large group of strangers.

This is exacerbated by the real name policy clubhouse has. Maybe there's room for an anonymous voice chat app?

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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Not just clubhouse. I get the impression that a few of the major apps are dying. FB - nobody really seems to be posting anymore. Insta - two people actively posting on my feed (I think, hard to tell under all the ads pretending to be posts). Twitter and tiktok appear to be holding their own though. Seen more "delete twitter" sentiment lately though

> FB - nobody really seems to be posting anymore. Insta - two people actively posting on my feed Their actual engagement numbers across the general population are quite good. This sounds more representative of your bubble using different platforms than the general state of the app.

Which engagement metrics are you using to make this claim? What does “general population” describe demographically on FB products?

Re: Clubhouse is the big stinker that nobody wants to talk about

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So how does clubhouse change the game? We already have youtube and podcasts. You can listen to Joe Rogan over bluetooth in your car. You can even ask Siri to play it. What is clubhouse doing that makes it easier to access or produce high word count content in audio form? How is clubhouse helping creators monetize their content? Why would I go to clubhouse instead of patreon for the type of content you describe? Not a…

>What is clubhouse doing that makes it easier to access or produce high word count content in audio form? How is clubhouse helping creators I'm not sure there's an exact parallel of "creator" in the Clubhouse paradigm. I'm not a Clubhouse user so my info is 2nd-hand based on how others describe it but this is my understanding of its original differentiation from podcast platforms and Youtube. Consider the scenario of…

> Neither are of them are the "host" or the "guest" in a traditional sense.

This can be entertaining for a bit, but after a while turns into an unstructured dialog ... nice for a fan base and their star, but not for people who want to consume information or entertainment as content.

A good moderator can ensure a conversation works and serves the audience.

> Neither have to set up a podcast or "upload" their conversation.

That's the job of specialists. Like radio or podcast producers. Those also ensure that the audio is of usable quality.

There certainly is a room for adhoc conversations, both with famous people as well as within peer groups, though.

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