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Glued to Your Phone? Here's How to Rethink Your Relationship with Social Media

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Re: Glued to Your Phone? Here's How to Rethink Your Relationship with Social Media

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> I'm a Libra which means I was born to find balance While there may be good points in the article, this indicates a low level of scientific rigor by the writer. Couldn't continue after that.

There is a huge rise in popularity with astrology it is honestly getting concerning .. ironically social media is fuelling that growth (tiktok mainly)

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I'm starting to get annoyed with these articles. Most people cannot use things like smartphones and Facebook "responsibly". To think you can compete with companies that have virtually unlimited financial resources available to highjack your attention and get you hooked is completely naïve. It's like telling a heroin addict to "rethink your relationship with heroin and use it more moderately". The only realistic way t…

How is HN any different? Endless stream of attention capture just like Tiktok and FB. And the people who point at the pluses sound exactly like ppl on FB and Tiktok. HN is a good laboratory to see if your suggestions work. If it doesnt work on the few thousand here mindlessly scrolling and jabbering away where is it going to work on 2 billion. The chimp troupe is fucked.

There are some subtle ways HN is different.

I think GP's important insight here is that people need to start being selective about their social media engagement and ditching their smartphones entirely.

I've used a flip phone for a couple of years now and I would never go back to a smartphone. Having a rich interface to the internet in my pocket is too addictive and does not enrich my life at all. More importantly, I feel like I'm part of the solution to the world's vanishing privacy problem. Yes, I'm just 1 person without a smartphone against 1,000 with smartphones, but by existing this way, I am preserving a lifestyle of deliberate technology use that I know is smarter, healthier, and worth preserving.

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Maybe age has something to do with it - yes, I used to spend too much time on Facebook. Back in 2007. I also used to drink too much alcohol. Today I just don't have time for social media other than when I'm waiting for something, like a bus or train or my boy to come out of school. I can't program with a hangover, I can't read, I can't scratch-build radio-controlled trucks. I can't scuba dive when I'm hung over and I…

Pre-Corona, I'd spend approximately 2-3 hours after work online, mostly working on hobby projects or catching up with quick TV (40 minute shows feel like a waste of time, whereas 2x20 minute shows feel more productive...) Nowadays, I have no need to leave the house. My meat-space activities are gone, so I poured myself into my hobby projects and learned that working on what you love more than 5-hours a day (out of ge…

Interesting. I have too many ideas and far too little time. I wish I didn't have to work so I could do the hobby full time. Alas it doesn't pay as well as the day job.

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#94
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I'm starting to get annoyed with these articles. Most people cannot use things like smartphones and Facebook "responsibly". To think you can compete with companies that have virtually unlimited financial resources available to highjack your attention and get you hooked is completely naïve. It's like telling a heroin addict to "rethink your relationship with heroin and use it more moderately". The only realistic way t…

I think you're cherry picking a bit. How much time do you spend on HN? HN is a social network for folks who are interested in technology and general interest topics -- much like other social networks. Do you think that people can use HN "responsibly"? The feed is algorithmic and designed to surface topics to elicit responses/engagement with the community.

I think HN is not social media, unless you stay long enough to start recogning names in the comment section (BTW, hi TeMPOraL!). It can be used responsibility, but for me it can be very addictive. I try not to engage, yet here you are to witness my failure.

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How is HN any different? Endless stream of attention capture just like Tiktok and FB. And the people who point at the pluses sound exactly like ppl on FB and Tiktok. HN is a good laboratory to see if your suggestions work. If it doesnt work on the few thousand here mindlessly scrolling and jabbering away where is it going to work on 2 billion. The chimp troupe is fucked.

There are some subtle ways HN is different. I think GP's important insight here is that people need to start being selective about their social media engagement and ditching their smartphones entirely. I've used a flip phone for a couple of years now and I would never go back to a smartphone. Having a rich interface to the internet in my pocket is too addictive and does not enrich my life at all. More importantly, I…

You're not alone, man. I sometimes still use my smartphone, but I'm trying to ditch it completely. It's too tempting, to the extent where it's life-damaging or life-destroying.

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> I'm a Libra which means I was born to find balance While there may be good points in the article, this indicates a low level of scientific rigor by the writer. Couldn't continue after that.

Same here. Very off-putting. How do I know that the rest of the article is not just hocus-pocus?

You could skim it halfway into the article.

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Social media nowadays is not just Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. There is Discord, Reddit, LinkedIn, Twitch, YouTube… I’d even count HN. There a many people, possibly still the minority, but very solid amount of people way to invested in those See those twitch donation whales, for example, the amount is big enough to have sparked a more than feasible business. I wouldn’t call that responsible.

I'd struggle to place Discord, HN and possibly Reddit into the "social media" category. They sure aren't dead websites and they sure have a community, but they don't feel the same way as Facebook, Twitter and TikTok. Maybe it's the lack of name recognition that makes them feel different.

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#98
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I'm starting to get annoyed with these articles. Most people cannot use things like smartphones and Facebook "responsibly". To think you can compete with companies that have virtually unlimited financial resources available to highjack your attention and get you hooked is completely naïve. It's like telling a heroin addict to "rethink your relationship with heroin and use it more moderately". The only realistic way t…

This kind of article is mostly clickbait at this point. There's a lot of "interest" in these kinds of topics and they attract a lot of attention on -funny enough- the same social media platforms. I believe the main problem with those social media apps is not an issue of time, but of productivity and determination/will-power. Think of Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, etc... These are not social…

> I believe the main problem with those social media apps is not an issue of time, but of productivity and determination/will-power

Social media are designed to be addicting. [https://www.economist.com/1843/2016/10/20/the-scientists-who...] They take advantage of the same techniques that casinos use to keep gamblers pulling the lever on slot machines.

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> I'm a Libra which means I was born to find balance While there may be good points in the article, this indicates a low level of scientific rigor by the writer. Couldn't continue after that.

Christ, the replies and me-toos on this thread sound like a bunch of atheists who can't stop telling everyone around how bad Christians are because they are constantly proselytizing.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're cherry picking a bit. How much time do you spend on HN? HN is a social network for folks who are interested in technology and general interest topics -- much like other social networks. Do you think that people can use HN "responsibly"? The feed is algorithmic and designed to surface topics to elicit responses/engagement with the community.

HN can be addictive, but it’s different in several relevant ways. It has no notifications. Its user base is relatively small and industry specific. It has no infinite scroll. It is plain text so it doesn’t reward semi-mindless scrolling like media rich social networks. It has a dead simple noprocrast feature that doesn’t play games. It virtually never changes its design, unlike social networks that are constantly twe…

Agreed, But FOMO home page content can be still be overwhelming as the rate of change of new content is high. Thankfully HN has 'best stories' feature.

So to reduce the addiction by slowing things down further, I started reading best HN stories on my kindle. Apart from sweet e-paper goodness it also allows me to assimilate the knowledge in comments which we all know is the real gold using clipping.

I've hosted it as a service too[1].

[1] https://hntokindle.com

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