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People like renting their flats, people like not staying in motels, etc.
There will always be abusers in any system that substantially relies on good will. Go after the abuses.
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Why can’t we create enough supply that it’s not worth investors hoarding?
Because theres not enough land and investors have more money than you. As an investment the average american will always be priced out. Its priced to hit your maximum threshold on monthly wages expendable to rent with minimal savings.
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Lots of people rent houses long-term. It's a norm throughout much of Europe. Eradicating short-term rentals of houses is a coherent demand. Eradicating all rental housing is deeply silly. I moved for a job to Ann Arbor from San Francisco back in 2001 with my spouse and our two kids. The idea that I should have immediately bought a house simply in order to start a job is risible. There are lots of good reasons not to…
Surely you understand it doesn't sound very convincing that you've drawn the line at just the point where it doesn't affect you and no farther. Crime is lower in places where more people own their homes, communities are tighter, streets are cleaner. All these externalities of crime, community, and hygiene are apparently not a problem when you're a factor. EDIT: Whoops, alex_smart below has pointed out that I am suffe…
This is the argument this thread had started with. Do you really believe there is no real gain in productivity from allowing people the freedom to freely move between cities in search for better jobs?
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Lots of people rent houses long-term. It's a norm throughout much of Europe. Eradicating short-term rentals of houses is a coherent demand. Eradicating all rental housing is deeply silly. I moved for a job to Ann Arbor from San Francisco back in 2001 with my spouse and our two kids. The idea that I should have immediately bought a house simply in order to start a job is risible. There are lots of good reasons not to…
Surely you understand it doesn't sound very convincing that you've drawn the line at just the point where it doesn't affect you and no farther. Crime is lower in places where more people own their homes, communities are tighter, streets are cleaner. All these externalities of crime, community, and hygiene are apparently not a problem when you're a factor. EDIT: Whoops, alex_smart below has pointed out that I am suffe…
The issue here is short-term rentals, not the deeply weird idea that the only properties that should be available for rentals are multi-family dwellings.
A common quote on HN (and one that I firmly believe in) is: > It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. This so applies to AirBnB. It's not salary per se but those that benefit by renting out units or those for whom this has saved them money I've found typically get so defensive about AirBnB to the point of calling detractors NIMBYists and the like. I'…
The more you think about it the more you begin to realise that this applies to almost everything you can think of. Our economic system is just bad at properly allocating rewards and value.
A common quote on HN (and one that I firmly believe in) is: > It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. This so applies to AirBnB. It's not salary per se but those that benefit by renting out units or those for whom this has saved them money I've found typically get so defensive about AirBnB to the point of calling detractors NIMBYists and the like. I'…
It's only a 'problem' because our local governments have perverted the housing market (and hotel market) with a Gordian knot's worth of regulation and red tape. How is it that we as a society are so dysfunctional as to be unable to build concrete cubes with windows at an affordable price?
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Tourists are people too. This really seems like an extreme version of nativism.
There are also plenty of non tourists who can't find regular housing who cram themselves into AirBnbs. It's better than sleeping in your car.
Without the Airbnb, where would we have gone? A hotel? But a hotel with a useable kitchen and good wifi would have been too expensive for any of us renting one of those rooms.
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> It's not salary per se but those that benefit by renting out units or those for whom this has saved them money I've found typically get so defensive about AirBnB to the point of calling detractors NIMBYists and the like. Isn't the other side of the argument also concerned with housing prices and money? > To be clear, I don't have a problem with people renting out rooms or an ADU on their property. What do you see a…
> What do you see as the differences between airbnb and this? Not OP, but I share a similar view. If you're renting out a room of an ADU, you're still occupying the property and using it as housing yourself. The whole difference is that the sole use of the property is not taking it off the long term rental/buying market. With spare rooms/ADUs, that's not the purpose of the property, whereas with renting out a whole h…
The AirBnb "effect" has directly led to increased home prices. A home turning a profit thus becomes more important than how its guests impact a neighborhood and community. Ignoring or spinning the social costs is a primary goal of Airbnb's PR machine. It has made many neighborhoods more transitory (i.e. less homesteading, more short term rentals). Acknowledge the social costs to community and it's not surprising to r…
No, the difficulty of increasing supply has directly led to increased home prices.
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Surely you understand it doesn't sound very convincing that you've drawn the line at just the point where it doesn't affect you and no farther. Crime is lower in places where more people own their homes, communities are tighter, streets are cleaner. All these externalities of crime, community, and hygiene are apparently not a problem when you're a factor. EDIT: Whoops, alex_smart below has pointed out that I am suffe…
Aside from the fact that this whole argument is risible, I somewhat resent the implication that my renter neighbors are somehow responsible for crime and hygiene problems. I think it's ironic that you think my argument is the one cabined by limited experience of the world. There is nothing moral or prosocial about financing residency with a mortgage versus paying rent. If anything, housing policy throughout the US is…
You can resent it however much you want, in the aggregate facts are facts.
The idea that renting suddenly transforms from a detriment to a benefit at the 12 month mark is a priori comical.