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But 2G is staying until 2025 so old devices can still do normal phone calls and SMS.
Same in Germany. First operators have shut down 3G and the last will follow soon. But there is 2G for voice, SMS, and in theory data. Of course in today's bloatweb EGPRS is not fun to use.
“We're Shutting Down Our 3G Network”
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#92VoLTE is so damn frustrating. LTE works via plug and play with any phone that supports the correct bands, but VoLTE doesn't. I have a Sony Xperia phone here in Canada and it's just not possible to use it on VoLTE without rooting to install specific provisioning files and whatnot. And that's not even counting how you can't just go from country to country without changing firmware. I've always used a local SIM whenever…
I understand why you feel that is ironic, but the VoLTE call on Bell uses only the Bell LTE data bearer and not any other resources that are VoLTE specific from the Bell network. Everything relating to VoLTE is coming from Verizon. In many roaming situations VoLTE roamers are downgraded to CS in order to comply with lawful intercept.
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#93Why does VoLTE require pre-approving phone models? Voice over VDSL (IMS, 3GPP's embrace & extend of SIP) seems to work fine independent of the device placing the call.
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#94VoLTE is so damn frustrating. LTE works via plug and play with any phone that supports the correct bands, but VoLTE doesn't. I have a Sony Xperia phone here in Canada and it's just not possible to use it on VoLTE without rooting to install specific provisioning files and whatnot. And that's not even counting how you can't just go from country to country without changing firmware. I've always used a local SIM whenever…
VoLTE has been "broken" (from a standards perspective) since before it even launched in most markets - it is just too "finicky" and configuration-specific. LTE/4G demonstrated the success of standards in that it "just works" as long as you have the right bands in place. Since most (modern) phones have the bands needed for the main global markets, you can pop in a SIM card and get connected anywhere. VoLTE is far more…
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#95Why does VoLTE require pre-approving phone models? Voice over VDSL (IMS, 3GPP's embrace & extend of SIP) seems to work fine independent of the device placing the call.
https://www.fcc.gov/document/final-report-march-8-2017-att-m...
The US cellular market still involves bundling handset and service, sold in physical stores. Bringing your own phone is deviating from the happy path. Carriers are not motivated to fix interoperability bugs because it increases customer churn.
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I would record the call, that should be proof enough once they “forget” to refund you.
Because no one can fake a phone call? Just get the offer in writing.
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#97I have an old OnePlus phone that still works fine, but it won't work with AT&T's network changes. I called and AT&T said I could get an iPhone SE for free, but when the contracts came for me to confirm, there was no mention of getting a free phone, and instead I was committing to paying $400 over three years. The AT&T reps assured me I'd get be credited at some point in the future and that the phone would end up bein…
Besides, they can't disable 3G/2G because of the sheer amount of people who still use these networks from villages.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
But 2G is staying until 2025 so old devices can still do normal phone calls and SMS.
Same in Germany. First operators have shut down 3G and the last will follow soon. But there is 2G for voice, SMS, and in theory data. Of course in today's bloatweb EGPRS is not fun to use.
Where I live in the UK (flat, semi-rural area peppered with small towns, 30mins away from a large city), there’s lots of spots where 3G is the only thing that works… if you’re lucky.