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Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by renewiltord »

andy_ppp wrote: post #82
rogerclark wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I block you, I want it to prevent you from reading my tweets. Obviously you can use a logged-out browser window, but that extra step is supposed to be annoying enough to prevent most non-psycho people from reading your stuff.

Why do you care if I read your stuff that’s public on the Internet, surely we should all be trying to understand each other’s point of view more not less?

To prevent context collapse. Some people are unable to understand what I say and take offence. That could be because of the way I'm saying it or because of them. Either way, I don't care. I would like to expend energy on my audience. Ideally, I can talk to my audience and to no one else.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by tsimionescu »

Is Twitter actually used outside the US?

Here in Romania, where we rputinely import most aspects of US culture, it's almost entirely outside popular consciousness. Politicians and stars are certainly not using it - they're on Facebook and Instagram, and YT or Spotify for music.

How is it in the rest of the world?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by mombul »

pjc50 wrote: post #38
thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

> anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting Have they, like, asked people? Also, do they need more people to tweet? It's not like the platform is short of content. Isn't there a role for the comfortable lurker?

Also, who's going to feel less anxiety when filming themselves vs. typing?

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by salt-thrower »

mdoms wrote: post #56
thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Perhaps people are anxious about tweeting because a single tweet can ruin your life?

You're being downvoted, presumably because of the idea that "if you don't say anything stupid, you'll be fine." And yet acceptably edgy jokes from 10 years ago can easily become dumpster fires of controversy today. There's simply no reason to engage in it unless you treat every social media post as something you would say to all future employers. Including private chats.

EDIT to add: I feel like we are have seen a shift in how social media is perceived by society. It used to be an extension of the internet forum days, where there was a reasonable expectation of anonymity and an employer scouring your online persona was considered a breach of trust. But now as more and more public discourse happens online, and places like Facebook enforce using real names, that veil of perceived anonymity (even if it was an illusion at the time) has completely fallen.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by gonehome »

thallavajhula wrote: post #5

Twitter is great when it comes to transparency. I love how they included this >Although we built Fleets to address some of the anxieties that hold people back from Tweeting, Fleets are mostly used by people who are already Tweeting to amplify their own Tweets and talk directly with others. We’ll explore more ways to address what holds people back from participating on Twitter. And for the people who already are Tweet…

Being able to set retention would make me feel better about tweeting.

You can do some of this with third party tools, but it'd be nice to have it built in. I stopped liking Tweets though because it's actually impossible to remove more than 3k old likes. I was eventually able to do so, but it required contacting their DPO office and having them reset the cache each time so I could remove them in batches (entire process of reaching out, getting a response, and iterating took 6weeks-ish).

Limiting quote-tweets would also help people since most of the abuse comes from quote-tweeting rather than replies (which you can already limit).

I'm not twitter famous so I mostly only experience the good aspects of twitter.

If you have a highly curated feed and make an effort to interact pleasantly with in-good-faith people it can be a really great place. It requires aggressive blocking and intentionally not following hostile people though. Some better blocking tools would probably also be helpful (block everyone who liked this tweet, etc.)

I'd also love a YouTube Premium style twitter where I could pay $10/month for no ads.

It's cool they have the culture to ship something big like this and decide to pivot - I think that's a pretty good sign.

Re: Goodbye, Fleets

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Post by renewiltord »

bigdang wrote: post #48

One thing I never understood about Twitter, and what keeps me from tweeting, is why on earth everyone needs to see how many likes, replies, and retweets my tweet has? I will never be a Twitter influencer, and have no desire to be. I just want to tweet one-off learnings or thoughts I have without the awkward struggle of trying to compete with others.

If it helps if you can't see them, then you can use Ublock Origin and block on

    ##div[aria-label$=" like"]
    ##div[aria-label$=" likes"]
And you will probably kill off that bar below your tweets.
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