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Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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As computers get more powerful as times go on, surely the cost of running the service should be going down not up? I wonder if the contract to run the COM registry is every re-tendered, or will it stay with Verisign forever.

I put this in another comment, but if you take inflation into account it is cheaper than 2012 when they set the price to $7.85

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#92

I would also love to remind everyone that this is the same company who controls not 1 but 2 core root DNS server addresses. A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET J.ROOT-SERVERS.NET That means Verisign controls 15% of the global roots while everyone else holds a meager 7%. IANA got the optics on this one all sorts of messed up.

The root servers are not all equal and there is no real advantage to holding two.

There are 63 Js, 14 As, but 165 Ls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_name_server

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#93
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$12.99 for a .com registration is a hilariously overpriced ripoff.

It's just fine when I don't have to leave the AWS console and click two buttons vs. using some other service.

I understand paying extra to make your life a little easier. Doesn't change the fact that in the world of .com domain registration, it's hilariously overpriced.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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Only upvoting this for visibility. This decision hurts the consumer/registrant in the end, making future registrations and renewal costs less accessible to a lot of markets. For clarity, this $8.39 amount will become the wholesale cost to the registrar — we of course need to markup on top of that to cover our processing costs, overhead to offer great support, mitigate abuse, etc. Registrars do the heavy lifting in de…

Ted, I've used namecheap for years and I love it. One thing though, when I visit namecheap while using a VPN it makes me fill out a cloudflare captcha. Any way to stop that? Considering I have already paid you money, you have my address, name, phone number, etc. it seems a bit ridiculous to ask for a captcha when visiting using a VPN.

I have the same problem with VPN. I get captcha on so many websites over and over it's ridiculous. Sometimes on different pages of the same domain! It used to be you only got captcha for form submissions. But somewhere along the line you started getting it for simply visiting web pages as well. Part of me wonders if I'm just getting played by these companies into labelling all their training sets for them.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#95
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How can you infer that? I can see how you could infer it if they were selling them at a loss, but not from selling them without profit.

It must still cost Cloudflare something to offer to this service.

The costs would be minimal, but it gives them another hook to try and get you into their paid services.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#96
post #75

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How can you infer that? I can see how you could infer it if they were selling them at a loss, but not from selling them without profit.

It must still cost Cloudflare something to offer to this service.

There are other companies that do the same, but have a (small) subscription fee for their profit. But the prices of all domains are without any margin.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#97
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I'm not sure if a 10% increase on registration price is going to materially change the math on squatting. My understanding is that squatting is like the VC game; you expect many of them to be complete losses, with a couple giving outsized returns. If you want to address squatting, then address squatting. If you want to address people squatting on new domains (as if there are many squat-able .com's left), then change…

Yeah... my intuition was/is it wouldn't make a big dent, but an interesting thought experiment. That said. I think the small renewals are the part that makes holding onto these domains for years possible... Random example. 20 years ago I had a one person local IT consulting side-gig. The domain was a not very useful, active less than a year and grabbed by a speculator as expected when I let it expire. It's been parke…

How about "If it's parked, or actively for sale (within the last X months), you don't get the renewal price."

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

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post #57

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Ted, I've used namecheap for years and I love it. One thing though, when I visit namecheap while using a VPN it makes me fill out a cloudflare captcha. Any way to stop that? Considering I have already paid you money, you have my address, name, phone number, etc. it seems a bit ridiculous to ask for a captcha when visiting using a VPN.

Captcha is likely being triggered by Cloudflare. We have heard this feedback in this past and have listened but it's always a tricky balance of fighting abuse/bots and presenting an extra step for the user.

Also, as a general aside to web devs, if we need captchas, can we at least use something less obnoxious and more privacy friendly, like:

https://friendlycaptcha.com/

I put this on my signup form and have had zero spam since, and it has very little impact on user experience. The fact that it doesn't feed the google surveillance machine is a bonus.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#99

Capitalism is an economic system in which private individuals capture property, make it private, make it scarce, then charge others to use it, making profit. Profit is theft from society. Stuff like this is the natural conclusion of such a system.

Profit is reward for taking a risk. Don't like that a .com costs more? Use another TLD.

Re: Verisign will increase the .com price from $7.85 to $8.39

#100
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How do you decide what profit margin is acceptable? Is it okay for a company to have 3%? 76%?

I look at the average, which is about 10% for the sp500. https://insight.factset.com/sp-500-reporting-net-profit-marg...

What is the relationship between the mean average net profit margin of the 500 companies in the SP500 index at this point in time and an "acceptable profit margin"?

It seems like an arbitrary metric to use. I would think focusing on barriers to entry, economies of scale, and legislative barriers to be more relevant factors in determining whether or not a profit margin is "acceptable".

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