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Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by killingtime74 »

zorrolovsky wrote: post #88
killingtime74 wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We live in a post evidence world

Very interesting comment! Any ideas on what are we supposed to do in this world? I keep on thinking we need to take a step back, come back to evidence and logic and make things right. But deep inside I know that's not going to happen. In the post-evidence world, it's too easy for people without moral to grab power and benefit. That is, it makes it easier for those in power to grab more power. That's why things will r…

All we can do is call it out and fight back by being skeptical and asking for evidence. Hopefully we’ll prevail

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by dekhn »

dannywarner wrote: post #54

I tried signing up a few weeks ago and they are not allowing international or Australian access. I'm surprised the comments here are missing the elephant in the room. Sridhar Ramaswamy was the Google executive directly responsible for putting all those ads on Google's search results. If Google search got broken then I reckon he did more than anyone to break it. He had a brutal rivalry with YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki.…

sridhar and susan worked in ads at the same time. I believe they were co-SVPs. I didn't really see any rivalry (I worked in and around their offices for several years).

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by detaro »

gentleman11 wrote: post #94
yumraj wrote: post #19

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California has no non-compete.

Seriously? Even fast food workers have to sign here

for after their employment? (which I guess is the unspoken assumption in this context)

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by Animats »

EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #89
Animats wrote: post #85

According to the Forbes article, this isn't a real search engine. It's just a reseller wrapper around Bing, like Yahoo Search. I thought they were really doing a search engine of their own, but no.

A real search engine costs billions in hardware costs alone.

Actually, no. Cuil did it for about $50 million. They failed due to lack of a revenue model, but they did get search working, sort of.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by kyawzazaw »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #86
judge2020 wrote: post #83

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I don’t disagree with you but there’s a reason those creators chose YouTube and aren’t purchasing video hosting for $x/mo and linking people to their website - YT provides free uploading and discovery to everyone, so those creators are available to you just as a million other small creators are available to all 2+ billion YouTube viewers who have their own niches and interests. YouTube’s free-ness and discovery is on…

"... us with our OSS ad blockers turned on." That's great, but personally I do not use an ad blocker because I do not need to use a browser to search, download or watch video. Nor do I need python or youtube-dl. I download videos with something like curl -4o 1.mp4 $(curl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1234567890a|sed "s/\\u0026/\&/g"|grep -o "https://r[0-9]\{1,2\}--[^\"]*"|sed -n /itag=22/p) except I do not use curl…

You are the extreme outlier. Creators will continue to be on Youtube, and ads will continue to be there.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by dannywarner »

dannywarner wrote: post #81
navyeet wrote: post #80

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Read what I said again, and then re-read in just in case you didn't get it that second time. Also my account was created 2 years ago.

No, your statement is not correct. I can see your account was created on May 15, 2020 and that you have no other comments at https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=nbabra . The OP account that posted the link was nmwnmw. It was created on May 23, 2020. It has 2 submissions (both Neeva) and no comment history, at https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=nmwnmw It seems likely you work for Neeva. You should address these poi…

Curiously, I noticed you changed your username. Here's an updated link to your profile showing the same May 15, 2020 date, and comment/post history.

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=navyeet

If you're interested in engaging with the substance of my comments feel free.

Re: Neeva Announces Public Availability of Its Ads Free, Private Search Engine

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Post by edmundsauto »

admax88q wrote: post #75
edmundsauto wrote: post #69

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Certain jurisdictions may have records retention regulations so e.g. search history can be supoenaed in a criminal investigation.

I would be very surprised if there way a law requiring search history to be recorded. Just because some data can be supoenaed doesnt mean you are required to store/create the data in the first place.

I agree, search history is a bit too specific to be encoded in laws. There are, however, a broad class of laws called "mandatory data retention" laws, which the EFF is against. https://www.eff.org/issues/mandatory-data-retention

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

Animats wrote: post #96
EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A real search engine costs billions in hardware costs alone.

Actually, no. Cuil did it for about $50 million. They failed due to lack of a revenue model, but they did get search working, sort of.

There are only 2 real search engines capable of indexing the entire Web: google and bing. Google search employs about 1 million servers.
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