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TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by anthony_romeo »

belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

IMO I find the platform to be mentally abusive for me. It's a whirlwind of stirring emotions, shocking content, and 'earworms' everywhere, where memes iteratively compound into their own nonsensical language at a faster rate than on other networks. I'm afraid of observing, say, misconceptions and false math tricks passively on the platform, and accidentally letting them burrow into my brain. There isn't enough time for proper critical thinking on TikTok.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by nith3n »

MasterScrat wrote: post #70
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

You should also see the pathetic copycat feature YouTube has created called the shorts. Facebook's attempt with short videos and reels is not much better either.

Why does every company feel the urge to copy this and also fail so badly at this

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by madeofpalk »

MasterScrat wrote: post #70
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

It's super interesting to compare it with Facebook's attempt at the same mechanisms with Instagram Reels: - terribly redundant content (as in, I see multiple times the exact same content from different accounts) - content ripped off and reposted from original creators by spam accounts - complete destruction of the original Instagram app to try to force-feed Reels down your throat TikTok looks so simple when you use i…

Everyone copies the core feed mechanic, but no one actually builds good video editing/creation tools into their app, which is actually why Tiktok took off.

If you don't make it easy for your users to post good content, of course you're going to make a boring app.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by hcarvalhoalves »

belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

Having people spend their attention span w/ "fun" content – as opposed to political / critical – seems perfect for a dystopian state.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by madeofpalk »

LightG wrote: post #66
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

I think "doom scroll" is the wrong phrase. I was recommended lighthearted content. But yes, had to delete the thing a year ago to avoid addiction ... a back-handed compliment, I know. Fun, but a complete time-sink ...

Tiktok, at least for me, is the complete opposite of doom scrolling.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by est »

xvector wrote: post #43
endisneigh wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

your comment is contradictory - if there is no political content, what propaganda is there to distribute? per your own comment wouldn't they just be distributing the "catchy" content?

There isn't propaganda. I guess people say there is, because conspiracy theories are more fun than fact. But strong statements like "TikTok is propaganda" need to be supported with evidence. I would say that the highly tailored experience of the TikTok algorithm would make a propaganda op quite easy to detect. The algorithm is so ridiculously good, that you would instantly spot a propaganda video, or notice when your…

> There isn't propaganda

There is. Tiktok China also got rid of all the political content because of the superior censorship algorithms.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by madeofpalk »

lorlou wrote: post #37
rapsey wrote: post #3

TikTok is a social network that could not be made by an American company, due to its complete disregard for free speech and embrace of censorship. This is a major part of its success, due to not allowing its network to deteriorate into culture wars and general unpleasant behaviour. I suspect any future social network much like TikTok will have exclusion as a major feature.

What I love about tiktok is how they've managed to ban all political content. It's a social network which is fun precisely because it's not monopolised by rotten people with loads of free time.

> What I love about tiktok is how they've managed to ban all political content.

This is... not my experience with TikTok at all. I think what you've just described is your own little filter bubble that Tiktok presents.

My Tiktok is very gay. Not that that is political, but I get a lot of trans rights content, queer issues/advocacy, BLM content, pro-choice content, "landlords are evil" content etc etc and usually its funny and witty and I love it.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by codetrotter »

hcarvalhoalves wrote: post #94
belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

Having people spend their attention span w/ "fun" content – as opposed to political / critical – seems perfect for a dystopian state.

Most so called political content is not useful anyways I don’t think. All I see for the most part is people convinced that their view is the right view, and almost no one seems to be trying to find common ground and work out solutions that everyone can be satisfied with. Instead it’s like they think that any inch you “give” is a loss.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by rapsey »

madeofpalk wrote: post #97
lorlou wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I love about tiktok is how they've managed to ban all political content. It's a social network which is fun precisely because it's not monopolised by rotten people with loads of free time.

> What I love about tiktok is how they've managed to ban all political content. This is... not my experience with TikTok at all. I think what you've just described is your own little filter bubble that Tiktok presents. My Tiktok is very gay . Not that that is political, but I get a lot of trans rights content, queer issues/advocacy, BLM content, pro-choice content, "landlords are evil" content etc etc and usually its…

You say it is not your experience then you say you don't get political content.

Re: TikTok owner ByteDance sees its earnings double in 2020

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Post by mcintyre1994 »

belval wrote: post #29

I hate TikTok because it's so good. It's a frictionless content pump that we can open and doom-scroll for hours. I have never seen such a beautifully crafted user experience, from the recommendation algorithm that is top-notch the content that is catchy and highlights trends without overdoing it and the absence of political content if you don't engage with it (or maybe there is none at all). I don't have it on my pho…

I actually find it less addictive than other feeds - I think it's because I feel less attached to the content (it's either people I don't know or famous people I like) and don't really engage with it beyond sometimes liking things.
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