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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#92

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

I'm guessing it goes like this: 1. Skipping vaccine line and talking about it is not actually against BookFace/YC ToS, or it would be a stretch to apply ToS. 2. Publicly talking about matters inside the private group is against ToS since it breaches privacy. In a way that paints the group negatively, nonetheless. Pretty straightforward. It doesn't really matter *to YC* whether anyone skipped a line or not, what matte…

Your post is a bit inaccurate.

Biggar tweeted about his unhappiness about the behavior of a person in the private group.

He received a public response fromt he person in question with a dismissive meme.

He in turn responded to that.

So, one could argue that the line-jumping-advocate relinquished his privacy in the first place.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#93
post #64

Snitches get stitches. I’d immediately sack anyone leaking private conversations like this. This isn’t whistle blowing. It’s violating the norms of communication like sharing things said in confidence as gossip.

Are you advocating illegally assaulting people for merely words?

Not assaulted but they will face repercussions. The expression is a common one for American native English speakers.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/snitches_get_stitches

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#94
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also confused. But it seems like the tweet in question is a false story that could be libel/defamation or something? He later issues a 'correction' (why not delete the original wrong tweet?) that says that the story about "advocating for lying to skip lines" is false. [1] I don't have any part of this and I'm confused and don't know what's going on here. But it does not seem like the tweet everyone is focusing on…

>But it does not seem like the tweet everyone is focusing on was even true. So the story becomes possibly, that YC kicked someone out for spreading lies about people in their internal community? I don't know. It's still partially true - the allegation of lying was wrong, but the allegation of instructing others how to lie is still being made. This is clarified by the tweet that you linked.

I didn't quite read it that way. The accusation is that both told other people how to skip the line. My assumption is that the both founders told other people how they could get the vaccine. A more charitable observation would be that the second founder told people how they could get it without waiting in line or lying.

The accusation still sounds gross. Though vaccine rollout wasn't great in the bay area. I got an email from my doctor about appointments being available. The ones in the bay area were taken really quickly. Availability was much better in other counties. There were also a couple other replies. One mentioned you could get vaccinated for volunteering for 4 hours. Another mentioned some sites were doing first come first serve.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#95
I wonder how many jobs have been lost and reputations sullied by posting thoughtless comments on Twitter. 20 years ago, you really needed to make an effort to get a thought out to the world: create a website, write an op-ed in the NY Times, get interviewed on CNN. Now, it takes 5 seconds to ruin your life. There's a lesson in here somewhere.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#96
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing it goes like this: 1. Skipping vaccine line and talking about it is not actually against BookFace/YC ToS, or it would be a stretch to apply ToS. 2. Publicly talking about matters inside the private group is against ToS since it breaches privacy. In a way that paints the group negatively, nonetheless. Pretty straightforward. It doesn't really matter *to YC* whether anyone skipped a line or not, what matte…

And it’s why YC doesn’t have the reputation it once did. Letting Sam bro up the institution wasn’t the best decision in hindsight as this incident demonstrates.

pg believes the Civil War wasn't actually about slavery (http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html), so I'm not sure that Sam actually made the place worse.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#97
TL;DR guy gets asked to leave exclusive party.

Kind of dumb to be raising a stink over the issue anyhow. Just get shots in arms. After front-line medical workers it doesn't matter whose. Prioritizing the elderly was baloney. Hell, smokers were a priority group. How much more obvious does an intentional backdoor have to be? This guy probably shames people who bluff in Poker.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#98
Don't leak internal forum discussions on Twitter.

If you want to criticize someone, use their name rather than "YC founder" multiple times.

If your Tweet contains misleading info, delete it rather than post a different threaded Tweet (which no one will see) with a clarification.

If the rest of your YC class now has doubts about whether what they discuss is really confidential, it's pretty clear that you have to go.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#99
post #81

The person who the original tweet was referring to (it's not private; they admitted it), just tweeted a GIF about "witnessing karma". https://twitter.com/Prafulfillment/status/140093402468041523... EDIT: Reply on HN by the author: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27400221

> they admitted it He's now denying that he instructed others on how to skip the line, although it's not really that clear of a denial.

The parenthetical is more to indicate the comment isn't doxxing/a witch hunt.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

#100
post #38

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

Why is that confusing? If you condemn the in-group publicly, it's a sign of betrayal, and they kick you out. Monkeys strong together, that's all there is to it.

It's cool and reassuring that YC has no principles or morals other than "monkeys strong together"
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