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The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

#91

If you drop some presumptions about the players you can go even faster-- Player 1: Roll a 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11 or 12. Don't purchase, so it goes to auction. In auction player 2 buys for 100% of their cash. Player 2: Rolls a 4, lands on income tax. Game over.

Wait... if you land on a property and don’t buy it it goes to auction where other players can bid (and start a bidding war)? My childhood has been shattered.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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> due to how tedious the game can sometimes be people ignore it because it’s too [much] work. The view that the game is tedious is directly caused by not reading the rules. Monopoly is in an odd position where everyone is convinced they know what it's like, and yet nobody knows how to play it. Turns out, if you play it according to the rules, it is not at all similar to the version with rules you made up.

It still is not fun as a game though. - For people uncomfortable with cut throat competition, this game is winner take all. - For competitive people, victory is 90% luck and therefore unsatisfying. - The game is decided halfway through the game time, the rest is the inevitable victory of the leading player.

Seems like an accurate emulation of the real capitalism, as intended by the game creator.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

#94

This isn't a legal Monopoly game at all. When you land on an unowned property you have to buy it or auction it. "No action" is not a legal option.

No one is required to purchase during an auction, everyone could pass.

Simply insert in the directions in the appropriate places "...put the property up for auction and everyone passes immediately."

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

#95

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You don't need the first roll either. At the very beginning of the game, offer your opponent $1,600 in return for a 50% stake in all the rents they collect for the rest of the game. Your opponent accepts, and you can't pay. Game over.

These deals aren't allowed by the rules.

As far as I can tell, they aren't explicitly disallowed. The rules do disallow lending to another player:

> MISCELLANEOUS… No player may borrow from or lend money to another player. [1]

I could see two arguments: First, board games rules generally do not need to contain a list of everything not allowed. In Risk you are not allowed to gift your tanks to another power in exchange for them not attacking you. By this logic, you're right, such deals are not allowed.

On the other hand, most players I've met treat Monopoly as "anything goes" in terms of between-player business deals, so long as they are not restricted by the rules. The fact that the rules explicitly disallow lending, but not any other deals, could point to other deals being allowed.

...I expect you're right, making deals is not allowed in the rules. But disallowing them would certainly turn a dull game into an even duller game.

1. https://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/monins.pdf

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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It still is not fun as a game though. - For people uncomfortable with cut throat competition, this game is winner take all. - For competitive people, victory is 90% luck and therefore unsatisfying. - The game is decided halfway through the game time, the rest is the inevitable victory of the leading player.

I've played the game a number of times as a deployed troop just for something to pass the time which can also be mildly entertaining for some people.

Our customized house rules are quite fun and move the game along faster as well:

* Eight players setup as four joint ventures.

* Joint ventures share cash and properties, but have two separate tokens on the board.

* No rent collection while in jail to dissuade camping out.

The end game becomes tense as your team has back to back rolls.

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

#98

The essence of the game is to show how important it is to be the one making up (or interpreting) the rules. Thus everyone has their own. The best rules include "take a shot whenever you roll dice, 2 if you get doubles" and "articles of clothing are negotiable instruments of exchange".

The only memories of playing monopoly I have are with family.

I hope that’s not the same for you

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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post #16

If you drop some presumptions about the players you can go even faster-- Player 1: Roll a 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 11 or 12. Don't purchase, so it goes to auction. In auction player 2 buys for 100% of their cash. Player 2: Rolls a 4, lands on income tax. Game over.

You’d be surprised how few people know about the rule for auctioning property that is not purchased. I’m guessing most people learned to play without reading the actual rules. It’s just passed down by copying the actions of your older siblings.

I didn't! And it's interesting I just read the 1st player who declines to buy can participate in the auction.

How often would an opponent be willing to pay more than list price? I guess to secure like the 2nd blue property. Otherwise it seems like should always just decline to buy and hope for good auction outcome.

And if your opponent good to auction too. Though maybe mortgaging properties if you have a good opportunity is worth it.

What other rules make the game more interesting/complex that the 'young kid' version might not know?

Re: The Shortest Possible Game of Monopoly (2010)

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I read the rules of the Swedish version again. It's very specific in that if it isn't bought, it HAS to be auctioned and it HAS to be sold and that any amount can be bid.

A very useful thing if you know everyone else is low on cash. More than once I've landed on an expensive property I wanted, but sent it up for auction knowing that nobody else could afford to bid up to face value.

Wait the person that landed on it can also participate in the auction!?

Wwwhat I need to see experienced people playing this game by the official rules or whatever the consensus is, since official seems to change over time too

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