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Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?
The middle ground here, and what most people do, is giving notice when you have one (1) offer in hand. You shouldn't need multiple
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Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?
If you're hoping to negotiate a counter from your current employer maybe you should have multiple, it probably gives you a stronger hand. If you're leaving either way why would you? And this isn't about 0 offers vs. many, it's 1 offer vs. many.
This is sadly a lot more common than people realize. It's drilled in your head that as an employee you should never ever renege on a job offer or accept a better one too soon because you are "burning bridges" and that is very bad, but it never works the same the other way around. Budgets change all the time. Departments go through reorgs. Projects get cancelled. "Hey but we have an open job offer" is never going to b…
Yeah, been there, done that. I turned down my other offers and then the one I accepted cancelled on me the night before my first day of work. I ran out of money and had to take a loan from a friend. I ended up working for them later anyway. No point holding a grudge.
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I feel for this candidate and I’m sorry he has to go through this. However, candidates aren’t innocent in all of this either. I’ve been on the other side in the hiring seat where candidates accept an offer and then cancel in the days leading up to starting. This comes after closing out the remaining candidate pipeline and telling potentially qualified candidates that the position was filled. It’s not a good look to h…
And when they do that, do you not consider it wrong?
Company A makes an offer for a job on June 1 with a start date of June 15 and a salary of 100.
Company B makes an offer for a job on June 5 with a start date of June 20 and salary of 130.
Should you say, I'm sorry company B., your offer is much better, but I already took the lesser offer?
Yes, I'm sure _some_ people would turn down a 30% diff., but most people will not and I would not hold that against them. If anything, it's good for you because be assured this person will not stay long at your co knowing they can potentially earn more, all things being equivalent.
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Also, emoployees can leave company any time. And they leave companies on short notices! Cuts both ways!
Are there actually countries where employees can't quit if they want to?
This is sadly a lot more common than people realize. It's drilled in your head that as an employee you should never ever renege on a job offer or accept a better one too soon because you are "burning bridges" and that is very bad, but it never works the same the other way around. Budgets change all the time. Departments go through reorgs. Projects get cancelled. "Hey but we have an open job offer" is never going to b…
If there is a level of uncertainty, then I would argue that it should be stated clearly to be fair to the prospective employee so that the concerned person can make an informed choice.
If Tesla, or other companies misuse their leverage and information asymmetry for their advantage, I would further argue in favour of laws that make these practices more difficult and more transparent so that everyone can learn from the process and know what risks they are taking
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Isn't this promissory estoppel? Like they promised that you would start at a certain date, causing you to quit your current job. Then they withdrew the promise, causing you to be unemployed.
A clever tatic to remove key employees from competitors.
This is so unethical there should be a 1 or 2 month "deposit" for these cases haha
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This kinda goes against what OP is against though, no? If you have multiple offer letters, chances are multiple other companies have stopped their job search (especially if they don't want to lead on other candidates).
Not necessarily, sometimes companies will oversubscribe to offers, ie hand out multiple offers but only take one of them, because they know many people could decline so they don't want to be stuck with no one. Same philosophy on the employee side, not beneficial to ride everything on only one offer.
Also, it's not like they couldn't use another SWE. Unless the applicant was a specialist, I see no reason they couldn't just train for another position doing similar work, unless the application would prefer not to.
From now on, employees should feel very comfortable leaving Tesla with zero notice.
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Yeah, that doesn’t match my expectation at all. Does that commenter think that you should always have multiple job offers before giving notice to your current job?
Yes? Isn't the common advice that you should have multiple offers in hand before giving notice? Or do you give notice without an offer?