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Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by octorian »

paulcarroty wrote: post #25
throwaway894345 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Linux GUI toolkits suck a lot. I was a professional Qt developer in a past life and while it stands head and shoulders above GTK, that’s really not saying much. I’ve often thought about making my own toolkit, but there’s so much that we forget about from things like focus to accessibility to text layout and rendering (much text has been rendered on why text rendering sucks). My hope is that Rust breathes…

> fairness, Linux GUI toolkits suck a lot Well, this is GTK password manager https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/PasswordSafe - UI works really well, use it every day. Guess GTK will be much more popular 'cause Qt LTS going to be proprietary.

Gtk's popularity comes from a couple of things that happened about 20 years ago...

- C++ dynamic linking used to be slower on Linux than C dynamic linking

- A lot of Linux die-hards are simply C++ haters

- Qt's licensing used to be unfavorable to purists, which lead directly to the Gnome-vs-KDE schism.

(Though I've always had the feeling that the license fight may have just been a palatable cover for a C-vs-C++ fight.)

Re: 1Password for Linux

#92

Post by bognition »

progx wrote: post #41
bognition wrote: post #19

I'm a big fan of 1Password. I've been paying for it for years. A few years ago I got my partner setup in a few minutes and now they have strong passwords everywhere. Its got great features for sharing vaults with other people so I've got password managers setup for the kids too. My partner and I both have personal vaults, we have a shared vault for financial stuff, and a shared vault for our media accounts (that we s…

Bitwarden https://bitwarden.com/ Has clients for all platforms, open source, self hosting or free plans and saas. Waited long time for 1password for linux and switched last year to bitwarden. Family Account for 6 Users ($40 per year)

Its really great to hear how far Bitwarden has come. I love that there are multiple viable competitors in this space.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by 015a »

wyuenho wrote: post #24
pjmlp wrote: post #2

Yes, it is yet another Electron app. https://github.com/1password/electron-hardener

I'm just surprised people call Electron apps "native" now.

"Native" doesn't mean anything. Everything is native; I mean, at some point, its making syscalls and running bytecode on the processor, its not running in a Virtual Machine, that seems pretty "native". Or, nothing is native; it runs through an interpreter, or fifty thousand layers of UI library abstraction, or whatever. Websites definitely aren't native, right, electron... isn't... Windows WPF apps, classic native, jeeze they're horrible to use though, but UWP, also native, but, I can write them in HTML and JS? Weird.

There's no logically correct definition of "native" which is also useful. Its just a buzzword that a few otherwise smart people use to mean "its fast". Every single stack out there can be engineered to be slow; some stacks cannot ever be engineered to be fast; Electron is not one of them.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#94

Post by swiley »

tored wrote: post #68
throwaway894345 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant "they suck for developers", not necessarily for users. I'd rather not get into details because the topic tends to invite flame from some C and especially C++ developers and I don't have the energy for that this morning.

Personally I prefer building GUIs in a scripting language like JavaScript over a compiled language like C and C++, GUIs changes a lot and needs to be tweaked in another way than system code does, so it is understandable to pick Electron, even though I loath the result. The Qt approach with QML + JavaScript with a C++ backend worked in that regard quite well, expose low level system calls from C++ and call it from Jav…

There's always tk if you prefer using a scripting language. Most scripting languages have bindings for it and at least with python it's the official toolkit for the language.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by jrm4 »

f00zz wrote: post #27

I just use pass: https://www.passwordstore.org/

No, but in all seriousness, I emphatically DO NOT UNDERSTAND the extent to which people place trust in external services to manage passwords. While I appreciate that they do have good skin in the game by being paid, etc -- your password storage on SOMEONE ELSE'S MACHINE fundamentally creates another huge attack vector/opportunity to screw it up, when they also must be accessed locally somehow.

I appreciate it if you're like "look, the convenience outweighs the safety," but it really feels like most of these discussions hand-waves away this fundamental flaw.

I say this especially as someone who doesn't do a lot of passworded services on my phone, because, you know, that stuff is really insecure no matter how good your password is.

Re: 1Password for Linux

#96

Post by Milner08 »

IndySun wrote: post #64
bognition wrote: post #19

I'm a big fan of 1Password. I've been paying for it for years. A few years ago I got my partner setup in a few minutes and now they have strong passwords everywhere. Its got great features for sharing vaults with other people so I've got password managers setup for the kids too. My partner and I both have personal vaults, we have a shared vault for financial stuff, and a shared vault for our media accounts (that we s…

6 years old and already having to navigate software, passwords, privacy. I am mildly shocked, and saddened. Or am I just behind the times?

Really? I was using the computer at 6, although basic stuff in DOS (I remember being proud I knew how to start games etc). At 6 you're in primary school in the UK and using a computer and internet safety is definitely a big thing. Not sure why you'd be saddened by this? Its not like its a black and white you either play outside or you use the computer thing. People can do both and learning about technology early is a good thing.

Re: 1Password for Linux

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Post by Milner08 »

dteare wrote: post #87
apozem wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1Password in Firefox unlocking the desktop app caught my eye. I'm on Mac and have to unlock 1Password in Firefox completely separately from the desktop Mac app.

We're bringing this feature to Mac and Windows as well. It's currently in beta and will be coming to the official release soon. If you'd like to play with this now be sure to install the beta of the Desktop app as well as the beta of the browser extension. ++dave; 1Password Founder

Ohh exciting! I will be installing the beta right away!

Re: 1Password for Linux

#98

Post by bwoodruff »

whalesalad wrote: post #35
throwaway894345 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fairness, Linux GUI toolkits suck a lot. I was a professional Qt developer in a past life and while it stands head and shoulders above GTK, that’s really not saying much. I’ve often thought about making my own toolkit, but there’s so much that we forget about from things like focus to accessibility to text layout and rendering (much text has been rendered on why text rendering sucks). My hope is that Rust breathes…

I really think this is the single most substantial reason as to why desktop linux has sucked for so long. I was following your comment until the end - I don't have any probems with Rust but how will that help the situation?

I'm not entirely sure this answers your question, but one of our founders, Dave, wrote a post that may give some context: https://dteare.medium.com/behind-the-scenes-of-1password-for... If that doesn't address your concerns please feel free to reach out to us at support+linux@1password.com — we'd love to chat. - Ben, 1Password

Re: 1Password for Linux

#100

Post by JohnWhigham »

pier25 wrote: post #76
progx wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bitwarden https://bitwarden.com/ Has clients for all platforms, open source, self hosting or free plans and saas. Waited long time for 1password for linux and switched last year to bitwarden. Family Account for 6 Users ($40 per year)

Bitwarden is awesome. It's my current password manager after I left 1P. I spent hundreds into 1P before the subscription model, as their apps were expensive and got them on multiple OS and for family members. Then Dropbox decided (rightfully) that you shouldn't use your public folder to host websites, and 1P told their customers to either get a subscription or lose the online vault which is a critical feature of any…

You're getting downvoted, but this is all true and shouldn't be discounted. I'm in the process of migrating off 1Password after their shitty behavior of all but forcing people to migrate to the cloud.
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