Google fined €100M by Italian antitrust over Google Play abuse of dominance

Post by salawat » Thu, May 13, 2021, 12:23 PM UTC

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IDK if it's "past a point," but in some cases maybe. I'm torn on that though. EG, what would it actually mean if FB or twitter became "regulated like utilities?" Interoperability? Portability? IMO, these are pretty finicky problems for a regulator. I think it would likely look like the mandated personal data dumps we have today. Some clunky feature that few use, and don't change the structure of the market. Useful tr…

Generally good comment, but if search is separated from ads, how does it make money? I'm totally on board with splitting up Google, but losing Google search (or search becoming notably worse) would not be worth it for me. The competition is just so bad, and always has been.

Post by scarface74 » Thu, May 13, 2021, 12:28 PM UTC

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a) Apple has invested heavily in automated review methods over the years. b) I don't know what qualifications you think an app reviewer needs. They are not looking through the code but simply playing with the app on a range of devices. c) It is only a few hours for updates. Initial app submissions often take days/weeks and are very thorough.

I agree with you, But you know there are different rules for each app. Small developers don't get same access as big developers and their apps get klled for smallest reason just by having some obscure policy or change in policy. Developers don't have same access as Apple google eg: Screen Time

Post by sneak » Thu, May 13, 2021, 12:38 PM UTC

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If we judge by the result these app store seem to do fairly well security-wise, no? Compared to Windows as a case study of what happens when you let users install anything they want from untrusted sources, it seems that the app stores do fairly well at culling obvious malware. At least that's what I experienced comparing the number of time I had to cleanup a friend or family member's computer filled with malware and…

A large part of the stability can be attributed to sandboxing. This is what prevents apps from gaining unprivileged access and destabilizing the system. This is the time where relatives will call you. What you don't see, is all the apps that steal the user's data. Curation obviously helps but it's difficult to measure to what extent.

Post by Karunamon » Thu, May 13, 2021, 12:48 PM UTC

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I agree with you, But you know there are different rules for each app. Small developers don't get same access as big developers and their apps get klled for smallest reason just by having some obscure policy or change in policy. Developers don't have same access as Apple google eg: Screen Time

Yes. Because I really want third party developers to be able to track my app usage and disable other apps…

Post by nickflood » Thu, May 13, 2021, 1:01 PM UTC

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Web browsers don't have widely known glaring security holes in them even though their vendors don't approve the content that's viewed through them. On the other hand, you can't be completely sure that sandboxes on mobile devices don't have actively exploited security issues as there are many ways to bypass app review from discovering the true functionality of an app.

> Web browsers don't have widely known glaring security holes in them even though their vendors don't approve the content that's viewed through them. Anything widely known gets fixed quickly. There are plenty of holes in browser sandboxing. The number approximately doubles as soon as you look at anything !Chrome, too.