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Re: Netflix's “Love Is Blind” Wants Unpaid Photographer for Five Weddings

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The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…

unpaid intern are absolutely good. many i have known are starting this way, before they have plenty skills for to gain full pay internship. ban are stupid, stop your try to interfere with economy via government.

If they're not getting paid, it's not really part of the economy, is it?

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The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…

>I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. When I worked with interns they were all paid... but every one was more time and expense to work with than any value they provided. In weeks they accomplished what I could do in an afternoon, and we spent WAY more than an afternoon of work with them. Amazingly many seemed to have a very high opinion of their productivit…

You generally will get dibs (competing with other internships) on getting to hire them full time. That’s often cheap recruitment.

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In Washington DC and Hollywood, I think it's pretty common. I haven't heard of this at all in Silicon Valley though. In fact interns are pretty well paid, $7500/month at my previous company.

Speaking of DC aren’t all government internships unpaid?

Not all. Some provide a stipend and/or housing allowance. Depends on the program and the agency running it.

Congress now pays their interns too, though I don't know if this extends to campaign interns: https://cha.house.gov/member-services/house-paid-internship-...

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The promotional aspects could be worth much more than whatever money they'd earn.

How are they worth anything when this sets the standard that the work is worth $0? If anything this moves the needle down on what you can earn later.

The Super Bowl doesn't pay the halftime performer. How are they worth anything?

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Just because you are able to find someone desperate enough to take up your shitty offer doesn't mean it is the fair market at work. There's a reason labor laws, OSHA, minimum wage etc. exist. This is predatory, period. The irony here is that they wouldn't be able to do this if they just wanted people to act as photographers, not actually take any photos, because the various actors unions wouldn't allow it. Even namel…

Why would you assume they're desperate? If I took a gig like this, I'd be damn sure that: 1) I am included in the rolling credits, 2) I have several cameo shots within the show, 3) I can use thumbnails of my appearances within my own web site and 4) that I am able to use the show's logo and likeness to promote my own business. My site would lead off with : "Award winning photographer. You may have seen my work recent…

If you're accepting an offer to work for free for a major company, why do you think you'd have enough leverage to negotiate those other things?

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I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.

It's pretty common in humanities in particular. It's much rarer in scientific, engineering, or technological fields. As a guideline, if the field has money to go around and companies have to compete for interns, they'll pay. If would-be interns have to compete for a few internships and the field famously struggles with budgets of two beans and a bit of string, they won't.

And here's what you left out: https://www.investopedia.com/netflix-q1-fy2021-earnings-repo...

Netflix is rolling in cash.

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#97
post #30

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The promotional aspects could be worth much more than whatever money they'd earn.

If Netflix won't pay you, who the fuck will? Whats the value of 'promotion' at that point?

Normal people getting married would pay a premium for someone who appeared on tv.

Paying netflix would be a smart business opportunity.

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#98
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I might get downvoted for that, I still gonna say it: That might be due to the demand-supply situation in photography. They probably will find photographers doing this for the promotion effect described in the email.

This is less about "can" and more about "should". It's bad for everybody when professionals work "for publicity" or are encouraged to do so, despite the relative innocence of the professional who chooses to do so. For the least subtle take on this possible, see: https://youtu.be/mj5IV23g-fE

It's bad for the other photographers, but good for those looking to acquire photography services.

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you are able to find someone desperate enough to take up your shitty offer doesn't mean it is the fair market at work. There's a reason labor laws, OSHA, minimum wage etc. exist. This is predatory, period. The irony here is that they wouldn't be able to do this if they just wanted people to act as photographers, not actually take any photos, because the various actors unions wouldn't allow it. Even namel…

Why would you assume they're desperate? If I took a gig like this, I'd be damn sure that: 1) I am included in the rolling credits, 2) I have several cameo shots within the show, 3) I can use thumbnails of my appearances within my own web site and 4) that I am able to use the show's logo and likeness to promote my own business. My site would lead off with : "Award winning photographer. You may have seen my work recent…

Going with your own logic here, you're just in the middle on a race to the bottom. The show would reject your offer for someone desperate who would not make any such demands. The producers are dictating the terms here, they are completely in control.

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post #28
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you are able to find someone desperate enough to take up your shitty offer doesn't mean it is the fair market at work. There's a reason labor laws, OSHA, minimum wage etc. exist. This is predatory, period. The irony here is that they wouldn't be able to do this if they just wanted people to act as photographers, not actually take any photos, because the various actors unions wouldn't allow it. Even namel…

Why would you assume they're desperate? If I took a gig like this, I'd be damn sure that: 1) I am included in the rolling credits, 2) I have several cameo shots within the show, 3) I can use thumbnails of my appearances within my own web site and 4) that I am able to use the show's logo and likeness to promote my own business. My site would lead off with : "Award winning photographer. You may have seen my work recent…

> "Award winning photographer. You may have seen my work recently on the hit Netflix show, 'Love Is Blind'".

Don't you first need to win an award?

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