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Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

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Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

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Funny story: I keep receiving a $0.01 monthly invoice from AWS for a very old account (opened 5+ years ago) I have lost access to. I have no idea why (the invoice doesn't list the services being used) and the associated credit card has expired a long time ago. They requested notarized documents to prove my identity. Obviously I'd rather settle my $6 (+ interest) debt 50 years from now than give hundreds to a notary t…

All states, with exceptions listed below, cap notary charge to $10 at most. Most states are less. These states don't have limits one way or another:

Alaska

Arkansas

Iowa

Kansas

Kentucky

Loisiana

Maine

Massachusetts

Puerto Rico

Tennessee

Vermont

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#93

AWS employs cost obfuscation by design otherwise the default view when you open the console would show you all of your current active services. Not only is that not the case, a single screen to show you all of your current active services doesn't exist. You need to take a deep dive into cost explorer (assuming you have access in corporate land) and try to decipher in what that all means.

Not disagreeing with you (a view with all the active services would be great) but one of the many benefits of using Terraform is that it allows you to know what you running.

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can set price alerts to email you on the day when you cross a monthly spending limit, but it is not the simplest thing to figure out. I run a small server and have a few odds and ends and get emails at $5, $15, $50, $75, and $100. Haven't broken $75 limit yet...

The problem is that a billing alert at $10 won't prevent you from accidentally starting up something that will bring you a $1000 bill before you can react to that email - there needs to be a process that cuts off service at some hard limit instead of just sending an email and continuing to spend money.

completely agree. even though it creates a new class of problem, there should be a "cut me off immediately at $XXXX per month" option.

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#95
post #58

I tried signing up with a prepaid credit card and they refused the card so I moved on. It's setup for massive profits on minor mistakes. The risk on a free tier is like shorting a stock, one bad day and you go bankrupt unless you have a connected twitter account. Sounds like a new dystopian future that is best not to be part of. When IBM ruled or Microsoft or AOL things you had one main evil corp. We're in a period w…

Use a temp number card. Either privacy.com or Citi cc also offers this feature

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#96

I don't understand why there isn't at least a setting that says "turn everything off if I hit $x." Then just given people a certain grace period to reactivate or get their data out before it's removed. It wouldn't fix production deployments where you want alarms, not a shutdown, when you hit spending caps, but it would help people on the dev stage to avoid issues like this.

Because, buster, newsflash:

AWS is for enterprise and enterprise startups and wannabe startups that seek vanity milestones (‘we are in the cloud’).

It’s not for your broke ass that needs to turn the tap off at a certain price point lol.

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#97
At one point I tried using AWS trial for an app, didn't work out, cancelled the account (or so I thought) only to find 2 years later some charges to my bank of $2k and when I spoke to AWS support, there was another $4k accruing for this billing period. Took ages to sort out, while they eventually did refund the amount, I was still out of pocket exchange fees (X2) the exchange rate also meant I was out more money. In total I think having a compromised yet closed AWS free trial cost me $350 over a 6week period some 2 years after closing it.

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#99
> Corey Quinn, your first and last stop for any question that touches AWS billing, has called for an updated free tier that treats “personal learning” AWS accounts differently from “new corporate” accounts, and sets hard billing limits that you can’t exceed.

This would be good.

I don't normally do "cloud" stuff. It's just not my skill set. But I have looked at it on occasion and one thing that turns me off is my inability to know if I'm going to fuck myself with a large bill from some of these services.

Re: Please fix the AWS free tier before somebody gets hurt

#100

When I read about the myriad predatory practices of Amazon I think about who the predator is and the saying "the fish rots from the head." I'm looking forward to the day Jeff Bezos pays the price for being the predator that he is.

He’s already left - you’re going to be waiting a long time.
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