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Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Opera in the late 90s / early 00s was such a great browser though. It was one of the first to adopt tabs, had a very responsive and slick UI compared to the competition, and the rendering engine was fast and fluid, though sadly not well supported or compatible. Even the built-in email client was decent, and much better than the one in Netscape Communicator from what I remember. Being share/adware was always a problem…

Opera 3.62 and 12.14-12.16 are still great browsers and I still use them sometimes.

Maybe I'm being naive but why would you use such an old browser? There seem to be many vulnerabilities.

https://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2012-6470/

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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> Usually the "Dole" case is the most famous example, where you have a publicly traded company with all the benefits of corporate record keeping, stock trusts and banks, and centralized stock exchanges, but when the buyer went to take it private low and behold the public company with all the centralized safe guards in the world should have had a total capitalization of 36M shared but somehow had about 49M share issue…

>This sounds like a technology problem for which a public blockchain is but one possible solution. I don't disagree, and "blockchain" as used sort of is misleading because at this point their are many solutions within the blockchain technologies and it is still rapidly evolving. >If a court says your ex owns half of the shares in $WALLET, but the blockchain doesn’t, and $COMPANY which issued the shares is also subjec…

> You could hold a non-complying party in jail/contempt of court for one, this happens with real world assets that do not get turned over now.

This doesn’t appear to resolve the issue of the blockchain reflecting a different reality than that decided by a court.

> But again there are implementation of blockchain solutions, where say the Company that issued shares did so on a smart contract and with a Court order they could burn half the tokens/stock in the wallet mint that same number and transfer them to the wife per the Court order.

How would this hypothetical court order be verified without the involvement of trusted third parties? Presumably judges in many places could be bribed or coerced into rubber stamping such an order.

This seems ripe for abuse.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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It was dead to me the moment they switched to chromium

I still think that was a necessary decision. Jon Von Tetzchner (one of the two Opera founders, and a previous long time CEO) strongly disagreed, then from the outside, but later did the exact same thing with Vivaldi. (Jon is a fantastic mensch , btw. One of the best CEOs I've ever had.) Google had very purposely raised the bar by putting like 5x-8x more competent engineers than the Opera core (non-platform/UI-specifi…

There's a form of regulatory capture where big companies benefit from having more stringent regulations because they are the only entities with enough resources to comply.

It certainly feels like Google is using the same playbook for web standards. They've created enough churn that no one else can ever hope to catch up in implementing those standards.

When Google products stop working on some competitors browser they can simply say "it's just web standards" and feign ignorance.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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All you need to know: > Will My Life Change? > Yes, my friend! It will because you can easily build your own decentralized website and simplify your cross wallet crypto payments, share music and photos (not just of my kids), start a business, secure and verify your identity “on chain”, or showcase your brilliant NFT art gallery.

"share music and photos (not just of my kids)" -- am I the only one who was creeped out by this?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Why on earth do you want to decentralize personal belongings? I absolutely want my possessions centralized, in storage locations I own. That is the much more obvious solution than putting personal possessions on a blockchain. If you want to store digital tokens for your kids that you can be reasonably assured will still be there when they become adults, use thumb drives. Keep them in a fireproof safe if you're really…

> my mom has managed to keep all the videos and photos of key events in my childhood safe and intact for 40 years without having to put them on a public distributed ledger No offense, but in all likelihood no one is attempting to counterfeit or pirate your Mom's videos and photos of your childhood, and ownership/p2p ownership transfers are not material. There are almost infinite real world examples were ownership rec…

The "Dole" case you're talking about was not actually how you describe it. This will shock no-one who is used to "blockchain" fans trying to bamboozle them.

[Edited to add: The court case that makes this happen isn't related to the share records, it's just the routine shadiness of business owners trying to pay less than something is worth, the discrepancy is noted after the court case is done when trying to reconcile the people who have proof they owned shares, and thus are entitled to a settlement versus how many shares existed]

The record keeping worked exactly as intended but it isn't how people tend to imagine, and this is the difference you've tried to portray as somehow being solved by a blockchain when in fact it would not be.

Specifically, those millions of "extra" shares are because of short selling.

Some of the people who had good reason to believe they'd owned Dole shares, had in fact bought from short sellers who'd sold shares they didn't yet have. If Dole had not gone private, the short seller buys those shares (maybe for a lot more but they hope for a lot less) and passes them on. But it did go private, so the short seller is responsible for paying up what the private buyer agreed to pay for these shares. This part all worked, all those shareholders got their money.

But the court case changes how much money they were entitled to, years later - and since the court isn't in the business of doing complicated financial paperwork it just told the businesses which implement all this it's their problem and wished them luck. Most of these owners will be huge institutions and will have an existing relationship with an equally huge broker and that relationship will have likely determined what happened next (e.g. this loss from hard-to-trace shorts isn't worth it, just give them their money in full and write it off).

The blockchain could have exactly reproduced this outcome, but it would not have improved upon it at all.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Any specific reasons to not use Opera? I actually just switched this week, being fed up with Firefox. So far so good. I very much like the UI/UX. I hope this isn't just another case of "China bad". Edit: Ah, I see the link you added. So the new owners seem shady.

I dunno, if Google was sold to a Chinese company (so, essentially controlled by the CCP), would that in your mind be grounds to avoid using their services, or just another case of "China bad"? I'm guessing you're perhaps conflating criticism of China/CCP with recent idiotic attacks on random asian people in the US?

Merely being owned by a Chinese investment group is not enough for me to distrust a company.

The allegations of predatory lending are cause for concern.

Still, the browser has been solid in my 7 days of use so far.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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I still think that was a necessary decision. Jon Von Tetzchner (one of the two Opera founders, and a previous long time CEO) strongly disagreed, then from the outside, but later did the exact same thing with Vivaldi. (Jon is a fantastic mensch , btw. One of the best CEOs I've ever had.) Google had very purposely raised the bar by putting like 5x-8x more competent engineers than the Opera core (non-platform/UI-specifi…

The irony was how ages ago everyone was waiting for a browser to come along and unseat IE, which was not a good browser. Now Chrome works well enough as a browser and has so much market share that it exerts too much control over its users and the Web, and it's unlikely that anything will be capable of obsoleting it in the near future.

I think the trick might be to make a browser that supports a reasonable subset of html/css/js + some killer feature. (Much easier said than done, though: but some kind of mobile app platform like WeChat might be a good way to get a foothold)

Or just fork webkit/blink and aggressively refactor.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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No I think he’s saying it’s beyond rescue because first it went from a “good” country like Norway, to a “worse” country like Sweden, to an “even worse” country like Poland, to an “even more Wiesel country like China, and racist crap like this is popular on this website.

There are in fact reasons to distrust the Chinese state which have nothing to do with race.

What are those reasons?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Any specific reasons to not use Opera? I actually just switched this week, being fed up with Firefox. So far so good. I very much like the UI/UX. I hope this isn't just another case of "China bad". Edit: Ah, I see the link you added. So the new owners seem shady.

I dunno, if Google was sold to a Chinese company (so, essentially controlled by the CCP), would that in your mind be grounds to avoid using their services, or just another case of "China bad"? I'm guessing you're perhaps conflating criticism of China/CCP with recent idiotic attacks on random asian people in the US?

I agree with you in principle, but I also disagree with your example.

No doubt, China uses this kind of opportunity to spy on users, which I think is plenty good a reason to stop using Opera. OTOH, Google's also spying on its users for profit (at the very least).

Please consider using Firefox. They're currently a very competent browser, and their principles are still rock-solid.

If you still prefer Chrome but want to support what Firefox stands for, think about donating to the Mozilla Foundation: https://donate.mozilla.org/en-CA/?source=donate_redirect. They do some very good work in the online privacy and digital rights space, and even though they're not the top dog in the browser space, they've got plenty of weight to throw around.

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