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Classic history tree of electronic music : http://music.ishkur.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26212706
Is it me or is drum and bass entirely missing from that site? Not sure you can have a real history tree of electronic music that misses it out.
It is tough being a fan in the US when the kings of DnB all live in the UK. Can’t wait for Fabric to reopen - its time for a visit.
The famous original is still hosted as flash here: http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
And after more than a decade the update V3: https://music.ishkur.com/
Classic history tree of electronic music : http://music.ishkur.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26212706
Do you happen to know if the old version of "Ishkur's guide to electronic music" is still available somewhere? IIRC it was a flash site with mostly music bubbles. It opened me up to fringe music genre's like Italo, Acid Jazz and Ghetto Tech.
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They actually did mention Nitzer Ebb if you do a ctrl-F. Yes, very cool techno-ish, minimal seminal music. Ritchie Hawtin used to spin Murderous into his sets. Recently there was a cool documentary about Wax Trax records called Industrial Accident. Worth seeing. Interviews with Front 242, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, KMFDM, Thrill Kill Kult, Trent Reznor, Frontline Assembly, etc.
Any reference about that documentary ? The rev's, FLA, 242, all my not so youth :-)
Does anyone remember the iconic Ishkur's guide to electronic dance music V2.5? The famous original is still hosted as flash here: http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/ And after more than a decade the update V3: https://music.ishkur.com/
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These kind of rants have gone really old for me, like the person is stuck in 2009 at the golden age of Pitchfork/Vice/Hipster blogs... music elitism/criticism.
Because sarcasm and personal taste have gone out of style? Not to mention those things were a thing at the time of Lester Bangs or the NME, 50+ years ago (and even in reviewers of classical music) hardly a Pitchfork era phenomenon or invention....
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Because sarcasm and personal taste have gone out of style? Not to mention those things were a thing at the time of Lester Bangs or the NME, 50+ years ago (and even in reviewers of classical music) hardly a Pitchfork era phenomenon or invention....
I find sarcasm and personal taste are at least somewhat negatively correlated... but then again I guess that's just my personal taste.
Classic history tree of electronic music : http://music.ishkur.com/ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26212706
Its easy to miss but descriptions of the different genres are the true mvp. Some of the saltiest things I have read, true hilarity. E.g `Eurotrance`: > "The rank repugnance of the self-fellating culture of DJ worship is at the forefront of this many-headed hydra of rapacious rot. Overbearing anthems, boring breakdowns, and tasteless DJ vanity have combined into one monstrous, obnoxious, pompous, unlistenable Babyloni…
>It's important to first explain the horrible template that ruined Trance music. Somehow a musical artform that devoted itself to hypnotic rhythms and spacey soundscapes became, inside of a decade, a mass produced assembly line McProduct for middle class Europeans (pejoratively known as Trancecrackers because they're white. Terribly, tragically, sunblindingly, basic-bitch-ordering-a-pumpkin-spice-latte white) who should have not spent their young adulthood clubbing but rather dying horribly in another continent-engulfing conflict (I mean, come on: Europe is due).
You know, one could answer this with an equally salty comeback, like how ironic it is for an American to think he's in a position to lecture white Europeans in any way about electronic music culture or taste : we built, grew and lived this music revolution for 20 years, while white America was still all about stale rehashes of guitar-based genres*, and black America all about hip-hop. To some extent, they still are.
Then around 2009**, when we had matured this into something commercial enough to be sold to the US public, we exported the cheesiest, bro-ready fringe of it as "EDM" and sure enough, it caught on like wildfire. Frat boys & sorority girls had "never heard anything like this OMG!" :)
But with remarks like the one he makes about war, it's probably sufficient to say that this guy, knowledgeable as he is, sounds like a bit of a bigot and a right d*ck.
*This was the era when Eminem had lines like "nobody listens to techno" (and by "techno" he meant Moby, lol), while in Europe the Berlin Love Parade had a million people in the streets each summer. I was dumbfounded in the late 90s at how many different names the id3 tag format had for country music and Christian genres. It was a complete WTF from a European perspective ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3#Genre_list_in_ID3v1[12]
** David Guetta-produced "I gotta feeling" for the Black Eyed Peas is widely credited to have launched EDM into the US mainstream. Soon after he & Tiesto had their Vegas residencies, EDC & UMF blew up and the rest is history.
Neat article but completely unnecessary scrolljacking. If you pinch zoom in, you can't even pan around normally. Scroll down a bit and then tap the (also completely unnecessary) arrow in the bottom right, and it'll ever.. so.. slowly.. scroll you back to the top. The web gives bad designers too much rope to hang everyone with.
I can't read it.
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I feel no-wave also might have been influential. ESG could easily be read as proto-techno in this context. 'Erase You' and 'Dance' have that same kind of reductionist, tribal sensibility.
Their track "Moody (Spaced Out)" shares a strange similarity with Atmosfears "Dancing in Outer Space". I'm sure it's independent, it just made me think of it right away