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iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by mynameisvlad »

jdhawk wrote: post #52
gambiting wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's insistence on only having face ID when competitors have fantastic and very fast in-screen fingerprint readers is just idiotic. I was kind of onboard when they first introduced FaceID, the argument that they don't want the sensor on the back and there is no room on the front was fair enough, but right now the technology has caught up. It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fing…

The S10's in screen reader drove me away from the platform and back to an SE2 w/ TouchID....it was that unreliable. Have they fixed it?

Not in the S20, at least. I was about to leave the exact same message but I went to a 12 Pro with Face ID because I couldn't stand Samsung's implementation.

If people think that Face ID is inaccurate, then they clearly haven't used under-screen readers. They're slow, unreliable, and imprecise.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #18
Someone1234 wrote: post #9

In regard to unlock w/Apple Watch: - This is an issue of Apple's own artificial creation. - This doesn't even solve the issue. So this all started because Face Unlock didn't work with masks, that's not Apple's fault. But what is entirely Apple's fault is that they break an option which resolves this only when Face Unlock is enabled: "Require Passcode." When you disable Face Unlock you can set Require Passcode to e.g.…

An even better solution would be to just show the "unlock with passcode" button at all times, and not just after Face ID has spent 15 seconds not recognising you because you have a mask on.

If you tap the “Face ID” text, it pops up the passcode entry form. I discovered this by accident a couple years ago.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by namdnay »

nindalf wrote: post #8

Happy about being able to unlock the phone with my watch. Arrived after a year of mask wearing, but better late than never. Impossible to say right now when we'll put our masks away, if ever.

sad that i still can't unlock my macbook with my iphone (without resorting to dodgy third party hacks). That would be really useful when the macbook is docked

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by kschwab »

fireattack wrote: post #44
aikinai wrote: post #27

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They fixed this a few versions ago. Now if it sees a mask, it shows the passcode input immediately.

Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

Androids also have the option where you tell them not to lock if you're in your home (or other named places). Does iPhone support that?

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by ryanlol »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #74
fireattack wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

> What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode? C O U R A G E Joke aside, it seems that Face ID was a tremendous technical effort so you could have instant access to your phone. Besides unlocking, there's no other serious application (memojis aside). The fingerprint reader was probably removed just to prop acceptance of Face ID. Also, Face ID i…

> Also, Face ID is less secure. If you're detained or mugged, just looking at your phone will unlock it before you can react and look away

Much easier to force someone to unlock the phone with their fingerprint than to force them to unlock with faceid if you have “Require attention” on.

You can’t physically force someone to look in a certain direction, but you definitely can force them to tap their finger on a surface.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by kevindong »

Someone1234 wrote: post #9

In regard to unlock w/Apple Watch: - This is an issue of Apple's own artificial creation. - This doesn't even solve the issue. So this all started because Face Unlock didn't work with masks, that's not Apple's fault. But what is entirely Apple's fault is that they break an option which resolves this only when Face Unlock is enabled: "Require Passcode." When you disable Face Unlock you can set Require Passcode to e.g.…

One of the core parts of Apple is having fewer choices, but striving to have the available options be good options.

Apple doesn't always succeed with picking the ideal middle point between too few and too many choices (most frequently, it's skewed towards the 'too few' side) however.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by asutekku »

ASalazarMX wrote: post #74
fireattack wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still sounds weird to me. I use an Android phone, I can unlock my phone at anytime using either face, fingerprint, or passcode. What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode?

> What exactly is the reason/rationale that it has to fail on facial recognition first before proceeding to use passcode? C O U R A G E Joke aside, it seems that Face ID was a tremendous technical effort so you could have instant access to your phone. Besides unlocking, there's no other serious application (memojis aside). The fingerprint reader was probably removed just to prop acceptance of Face ID. Also, Face ID i…

FaceID used 3D depth in perception, it’s not camera what it uses.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by fastball »

joshstrange wrote: post #78
gambiting wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's insistence on only having face ID when competitors have fantastic and very fast in-screen fingerprint readers is just idiotic. I was kind of onboard when they first introduced FaceID, the argument that they don't want the sensor on the back and there is no room on the front was fair enough, but right now the technology has caught up. It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fing…

> Apple's insistence on only having face ID For now. I'd wager in the next year or two we will see TouchID in the power button or under the screen. Are there Android phones with this tech already? Yes, you can almost always count on Android phones to have new types of tech before Apple but in my experience Apple's version is much more polished/solid/secure as whole. Android had "Face unlock" for at least a year or tw…

> you can almost always count on Android phones to have new types of tech before Apple but in my experience

Not really true in the case of TouchID though. Sure other things had fingerprint scanners before iPhone but they sucked hard.

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Post by howinteresting »

randomopining wrote: post #85
Exuma wrote: post #47

"woman with beard" emoji? This is just getting stupid.

Please, it's womyn.

It is very definitely not that. "Womyn" was specifically created by trans-exclusionary feminists and using that term is a signal of affiliation with that crowd.

Re: iOS 14.5 delivers Unlock iPhone with Apple Watch, new privacy controls, and more

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

3grdlurker wrote: post #40
gambiting wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's insistence on only having face ID when competitors have fantastic and very fast in-screen fingerprint readers is just idiotic. I was kind of onboard when they first introduced FaceID, the argument that they don't want the sensor on the back and there is no room on the front was fair enough, but right now the technology has caught up. It's crazy that you can unlock a Samsung with your face OR an in-screen fing…

Or they could put it on the lock button like they did with one of their iPads.

I have used phones with all types of fingerprint sensor. Below the screen (Moto Z, iPhone 6S), at the back, in the power button (Moto Z3), and built into screen (Moto Z4).

Built into the screen is by far superior of all. The worst is at the back, with power button at the side not far from it.

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