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Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by jchallis »

dasKrokodil wrote: post #79
mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

>Imagine the other way around, German company selling Kinder Surprise Eggs in US TIL that Kinder Surprise Eggs are illegal in the US.

Unlike AR-15's that kill a great deal more children.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by ttt0 »

holler wrote: post #68
cigaser wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This network would actually bring MORE moderation. People could subscribe to moderation filters similar way as in adblock. Antinazi, antiantifa, antilgbtq, anti-jehowa-witness... No extremism, just nice business and technical discussion. If some filter curator fails, you just replace its filter with another one.

what stops a "centralized" network from implementing the same thing?

The centralized network stops itself from implementing it. That's what it used to be like on for example Twitter, where people used blacklists. But Twitter didn't want that and they wanted to be the arbiter of what you should or should not see instead.

And if you want to do that as a centralized network, you'll be cancelled by one of services you have to rely on anyways.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by hesarenu »

kumarm wrote: post #55

I think there is far bigger issue than censorship here. Significant portion of Indians already think there is big conspiracy behind Covid19 and everyone (Media, Governments, Healthcare professions, Big businesses, Pharma) is it to "$Insert your conspiracy here". Now they see tweets being deleted just for being critical on government handling of issue. Doesn't that add fuel to conspiracy theories?

Most of the cases are asymptotic. Mild symptons are similar to seasonal fever. Obviously this would make them think its a conspiracy to make money for hospitals.

The situation on ground would vary from cities. Not every city is like Delhi. My small city(compared to other bigwigs in India) as of now has no issues. Health worker said Govt bed are 50% filled. I don't see people outside Govt or Pvt hospitals. But in Bangalore any huge spike(this is huge compared at last Oct peak) would be a very big concern.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by nine_k »

gonehome wrote: post #40
wtmt wrote: post #2

Note that these tweets are only hidden for anyone in India (not removed from Twitter) since these do not violate Twitter’s terms but are being forced off the platform by a government order. I wish Twitter would put up a better fight on this, but Twitter, WhatsApp and Facebook have been on the receiving end of criticism and threats by the central government, and it looks like Twitter chooses its battles to ensure its…

We should expect better: https://zalberico.com/essay/2020/06/13/zoom-in-china.html This is a disappointing outcome of our community (software engineers, hackers, builders) and our technology - the web as we've built it. The promise of decentralized communications empowering people. We should expect more, those in a position to do the right thing at Twitter should try to do so. I hope long term something like urbit wi…

You can only empower people against their government's desire to a certain limit.

The more powerful is the government, the quicker it is at slapping your hand, and the more efficient it is at it.

If you operate in a country, you normally can't avoid the limitations of the country's laws, no matter how nonsensical you might find these laws. Technology does not change this equation materially, given strong enough law enforcement.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by hntroll666 »

acd10j wrote: post #54

India is turning gradually authoritarian following Russia and china, with west turning blind eye, USA had their own problems in trump and right wing, No longer it has wiggle room or leverage to prevent this trend.

US had its own problems? The authoritarians won in the US, and are now taking steps to ensure that they'll never be out of power again.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by manub22 »

hunter-2 wrote: post #22
galtwho wrote: post #3

Few of the tweets removed are detailed here https://www.opindia.com/2021/04/covid-pandemic-hoax-to-shari... Ps : the usual propaganda site or govt mouthpiece claims are bound to come out now. Read the article and make up your mind

The list of tweets removed are here: https://thewire.in/tech/as-covid-19-crisis-deepens-twitter-t... Anybody with a VPN or is outside India can indeed read and make their mind up. Edit: Every propaganda has an inkling of truth to it. That's why people believe it. And that's how everyone from Goebbels to the current Indian administration operate. Cherrypicking just the obviously fake ones to make your point is silly.

The pics of pyres shared in the tweet were common in India before the Covid started. Just go to any crematorium in India and you will see similar situation, dead bodies keeps on coming and their relatives burn them and do the last rites. Its not new to India, but the way its portrayed that pyres are only due to Corona pandemic is totally wrong !!!

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by mrtksn »

oooooooooooow wrote: post #81
mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

Understandable you'd think Kinder was a German brand, but they're made by Ferrero, an Italian company.

Ah, I keep forgetting that. "Kinder" sounds very German to me.

Re: Twitter is blocking tweets that criticize the Indian government

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Post by vmception »

alkonaut wrote: post #62
mrtksn wrote: post #49

The expectation that a corporation operating in India will not obey Indian laws but American ones is appalling. EU, Canada, China, Turkey or North Korea - if you want to do business there you have to respect their laws. “For profit US corporation fighting foreign government atrocities” is a deeply flawed idea. If Indians believe that they need wider free speech rights or other protections, they need to change their p…

My expectation isn't that a US tech company would break local law. It's that it would get out of market where it would otherwise be forced to do things that doesn't agree with some fundamental values of the company.

> some fundamental values of the company

they do you just misinterpreted what the fundamental values were

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