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I hate that you can't log out of Whatsapp temporarily. I have to turn off my internet or my phone to take a break from it, or uninstall and reinstall the app. A dark pattern that means I'm always logged in even when I don't want to be.
>Nobody uses Signal in France [from the 5000 sample] If one would've come to HN and read the last few months worth of posts you'd come to think that a lot of people from around the world moved to Signal. But then again this is a reminder about how little HN represents compared to the general population's tech choices.
>Nobody uses Signal in France [from the 5000 sample] If one would've come to HN and read the last few months worth of posts you'd come to think that a lot of people from around the world moved to Signal. But then again this is a reminder about how little HN represents compared to the general population's tech choices.
That signal move backfired for me. Before it was just whatsapp. Now with some folks from my generation moving to signal and the older folks from the parent's generation staying with whatsapp, I have had to maintain presence across 2 chat applications.
* Messenger for family and some friends * WhatsApp for group chats and most of my friends * SMS for older family members * Signal and Telegram for a select few privacy-conscious friends
And at least one family member uses three of these, and it's a toss-up which one he'll use at any given time.
I hate that you can't log out of Whatsapp temporarily. I have to turn off my internet or my phone to take a break from it, or uninstall and reinstall the app. A dark pattern that means I'm always logged in even when I don't want to be.
What do you mean by "logged in"? You're only shown as "Online" when you have the app open. When you close it it turns to "Last seen".
Now that I think more about it, I could do two things: (1) disable notifications, (2) make it so I disable the blue check and double check and appear offline. It'd effectively simulate logging off.
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What do you mean by "logged in"? You're only shown as "Online" when you have the app open. When you close it it turns to "Last seen".
I meant I sometimes wish to take a break from both notifications as well as my counterpart seeing the message got pushed into my client and thinking I'm ignoring them. If there's unattended to messages I feel a social pressure to respond quickly. I want Whatsapp to be more like an email client which is far less intrusive into mental and emotional space. Now that I think more about it, I could do two things: (1) disab…
I'm unsure how you'd do #2 though? There's a permission for background data, wonder if that would be enough? Let me know if you test it!
I'm on Android btw.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by "logged in"? You're only shown as "Online" when you have the app open. When you close it it turns to "Last seen".
I meant I sometimes wish to take a break from both notifications as well as my counterpart seeing the message got pushed into my client and thinking I'm ignoring them. If there's unattended to messages I feel a social pressure to respond quickly. I want Whatsapp to be more like an email client which is far less intrusive into mental and emotional space. Now that I think more about it, I could do two things: (1) disab…
The drawback is that this behavior can not be enabled on a per-app basis: either all app synchronize, or none. So I don't have new emails either unless explicitly enabled, or any other similar app. The only thing that still works and notify without requiring the app to be open are text messages and phone calls.
I consider that to be a feature, but other might not.
Any app that gives my peers even an inkling of what I'm doing without me explicitly sending that information gives me the heebie jeebies. I've gone back to using SMS for messaging these days. No more read receipts, no more "last active 10 minutes ago", no more "Alice is nearby!", and no more "you haven't messaged Bob in a while, send a message?". Sure SMS is insecure, but at least it doesn't drive me insane with all…
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I meant I sometimes wish to take a break from both notifications as well as my counterpart seeing the message got pushed into my client and thinking I'm ignoring them. If there's unattended to messages I feel a social pressure to respond quickly. I want Whatsapp to be more like an email client which is far less intrusive into mental and emotional space. Now that I think more about it, I could do two things: (1) disab…
Yeah I know very well what you mean! I do #1 (turn off notifications in the app settings) every now and then when I want to cut off a specific communication channel. I'm unsure how you'd do #2 though? There's a permission for background data, wonder if that would be enough? Let me know if you test it! I'm on Android btw.
I saw a very strange thing in Whatsapp last week. One of my contacts texted me their name in Cyrillic characters (Whatsapp on IOS), five seconds later I got an email to my Gmail inbox in russian. I check my spam folder occasionally (mostly bitcoin scams for some reason) and had never seen any messages in russian.