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Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by itsoktocry »

haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

>But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market agrees with us early adopters and tech nerds.

No one outside of early adopters and tech nerds cares one wink about the components of their laptop. The days of normal people caring about specs are long gone.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by gigatexal »

bayindirh wrote: post #83
dividedbyzero wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how many of those who got an M1 mac recently are aware of what exactly that means, besides that it's new and fast. I could imagine a large part of those sales to fall into the "I need a new computer, I'll get another Macbook Air" category. Those buyers wouldn't have much reason to care anyway; I guess you'd have to do pretty specialized work to really notice a big difference besides "cool" and "fast".

I'm using an M1 MacBook Air right now. It's more nuanced than speed. That thing's responses are insane. It's an insanely fast computer which wakes up like an iPhone and has an endurance like a vintage, entry level Nokia phone. It's ready to work before I finish opening up the screen and, they forgot to tell the battery that it needs to deplete after some time. It doesn't matter for ordinary people to know all the coo…

I’ve a tax return waiting for whatever M2 or M1X pro laptop they come out with.

I simply can not wait.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by rswail »

someperson wrote: post #2

Great marketing. I wonder the sales difference if they were also selling Macs with current generation AMD Ryzen chips manufactured on a modern TSMC node.

He's basically saying to investors "We're executing this bet-the-company's-lap/desktop-market change to our CPUs flawlessly."

It's got nothing to do with the merits of the new architecture vs Intel, it's about Apple not only transitioning, but also consolidating its market edge with yet another moat of smart technology adoption.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by sjwright »

twobitshifter wrote: post #64
imwillofficial wrote: post #50

I’ve had a pet theory that the company has spread its wings after Jonny Ive left. More practical designs Thicker, more performing machines Higher quality and durability at the cost of thickness Colors again?! It’s possible, perhaps even likely that this was planned before Ives departure. But we are seeing a massive sea shift in the way Apple designs their gear. The old mantra was “thin and light before all else” Now…

I think yesterday’s iMac shows that they haven’t given up on thinness.

I suspect that new iMac design has been in the can for years, waiting for the technology to catch up. And it’s a consumer device anyway; the real test will be whether the “M1X” serious iMac is inflicted with arbitrary thinness or if it will be designed with serious users in mind.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

dividedbyzero wrote: post #45
haswell wrote: post #14

I see a myriad of comments that boil down to “duh”, but I think these comments are missing the point. Consider an alternate possibility: “sales of Apple’s new ARM macs outpaced by older models”. Had Apple not knocked M1 out of the park, this was a real possibility. Is it surprising that a well executed architecture change is now selling well? Not really. But the more interesting point is that the rest of the market a…

I wonder how many of those who got an M1 mac recently are aware of what exactly that means, besides that it's new and fast. I could imagine a large part of those sales to fall into the "I need a new computer, I'll get another Macbook Air" category. Those buyers wouldn't have much reason to care anyway; I guess you'd have to do pretty specialized work to really notice a big difference besides "cool" and "fast".

Friend of mine just got a new M1 13-inch MBP.

He "likes" it, as opposed to "loves" it; because he doesn't actually care that much (he's not a tech nerd). He likes his iPad a lot more.

He would probably feel the same way about a new Dell or Lenovo. It's just not that important to him. Computers are a "necessary evil." He's a musician, and he asked my advice, so he got a Mac.

For myself, I am waiting on the M1X/M2, later this year. I have a couple of big external monitors, and I know the M1 has issues with those. I've already weaned myself off of my BlackMagic eGPU Pro, in anticipation.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by afavour »

xacky wrote: post #24

Now that Parallels, Crossover and UTM have solved the boot camp issue there is little reason to let x86 compatibility get in the way. Most of the major Mac apps have released Universal Binaries as well. It's not even been six months yet and most Macs have already transitioned. Now all we need is the Mac Pro and Macbook Pro 16" to switch.

I still use Boot Camp for gaming. I know it's a minority use case but when I switch to an M1 machine I'll miss it.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by varispeed »

I hate Apple anti-competitive behaviour and that they claim they are environment friendly while trying to fight the right to repair, but I need a new laptop for work and everything that is currently on the market feels outdated. The biggest offender are of course Intel based laptops - eve n the very latest ones are just simply a reheated and vintage at this point, whereas AMD ones seem to be either not in stock or paired with sub-par peripherals. So it looks like I will hold my nose and get a M1 or its successor when it comes this year.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

matsemann wrote: post #78
dkarp wrote: post #13

M1 is amazing and I bought my partner one and she loves it. However, when it came to buying a new engineer on our team a laptop, we had to go with the last 2020 Intel model. We still have some uncertainty over whether or not our development tools/environment will work on M1. Many python packages will take longer to install I imagine (if there are no wheels for the M1 mac, not sure if that's an issue) and I suspect so…

Current lineup has too little RAM for many dev-tasks. Like running multiple docker containers, or developing in a ram-hungry language (java+intellij), or running emulators (mobile dev). If the next MBP16 lineup with M1 (M2?) supports 32+ GBs of RAM other vendors will have to step up their game, though.

> running emulators (mobile dev)

16GiB is insufficient for mobile? iPhone SE has 3GiB and 12 has 6GiB. That is less than half your M1 RAM. How much more does the emulator consume?

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by frant-hartm »

andy_ppp wrote: post #29
yoz-y wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never mind the whole issue with heat and battery life where AMD is miles behind. That's just false. AMDs newer U models have TDP and performance per watt at the same level as the M1. Apple has other advantages with the M1 (like running iOS programs, more optimised for their software and so on), so they still benefit from having their own chips. M1 is great, but it's not magic.

The AMD CPU wattage != Apple’s SOC including graphics card, large parts of the motherboard and memory. If you’re right where can I buy an AMD laptop with 20h battery life?

You are mixing battery life (= battery capacity / power consumption at low digits cpu usage) and performance per watt (= max performance / power consumption). M1 is better at the former, high end laptop Ryzen models are better at the latter.

Re: Apple Now Selling More M1 Macs Than Intel-Based Models, Says Tim Cook

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Post by seanalltogether »

chrisseaton wrote: post #70
izacus wrote: post #4

You mean people aren't going to buy hardware that its manufacturer explicitly said they're not going to be building and supporting much further? The same manufacturer that's known for dropping macOS support on perfectly capable older hardware without backwards compatibility? Color us surprised!

> The same manufacturer that's known for dropping macOS support Eh? Latest macOS runs on hardware from as far back as 2013 .

When apple moved from powerpc to intel, they dropped support for powerpc after only 3 years.
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