Except duckduckgo can't find my project and Google can:
DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
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Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#92The purpose of search engines is filtering content to give you what you want, which might be information, or it might be discussion, or polemics, or gossip. If you want to learn about some topic that has some element of subjectivity, familiarize yourself with the different points of view and read the writing of whoever you are interested in. There are lots of tools on the Internet to facilitate this -- Wikipedia, for…
I agree with you shouldn't form an opinion based on Google's top results: But I believe that's _exactly_ what most people do.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#93The purpose of search engines is filtering content to give you what you want, which might be information, or it might be discussion, or polemics, or gossip. If you want to learn about some topic that has some element of subjectivity, familiarize yourself with the different points of view and read the writing of whoever you are interested in. There are lots of tools on the Internet to facilitate this -- Wikipedia, for…
How to do I know what filters form the top results if they aren't transparent? What would lead you to believe that familiarizing yourself with a different point of view would take you down a meaningfully different path through the search graph? None that I can see. Every search has a non-objective filter. The original page rank is one such. What would be useful is to make the tree obvious and manipulable as a separate object itself.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are other options, i.e. opt-in vs opt-out, separate sections (only show in sidebar), instant on/off, and overall greater transparency.
Surfing in anonymous mode with Chrome should work as an opt-out, or shouldn't it?
only as long as you don't log in to google or anything else before you search.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#95Confirmation bias is bad enough already, it's really a shame that powerful companies like Google reinforces it just for the sake of giving you more pleasing search results. (Pleasing and Good overlap, but they're not equal.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias http://lesswrong.com/lw/iw/positive_bias_look_into_the_dark/ Edit: I didn't intend to bash Google specifically. But they are faced with a choice in…
Yes, after all the primary job of a search engine is to fight the user's own biases, and who wants a product that's pleasing to use anyhow?
My phrasing was a bit harsh. I understand that Google (and others) are mainly out to make money. To do that they have to please users most. Anyway, they probably can't make the difference between "relevant" and "pleasant", because user's behaviour only grant them access to "pleasant".
As long as this is done in a neutral way (by delivering the same result to everyone), any confirmation bias will be averaged across entire populations, so this should be okay.
Personalized results however make the results noticeably more pleasant, and significantly more biased (this is probably unavoidable). Of course Google, Bing, and Co would shun that bias thing. Who can blame them?
I don't want blame Google specifically. I want to point out this old, common moral dilemma: make money, or don't hurt anyone? Google took the money. Many do. I'm not sure to what extent we should blame them, but clearly, the System™ has room for improvement.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#96In the end (1) technical people will find a way around in when they need to, (2) The conspiracy-theory loving will use the "Filter bubble"as an argument for their own ends, and (3) The rest-most people will just not care... I think the more interesting question is whether this third group will veer off to become more biased to their own world-view as the article suggests.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#97What about the filter bubble of me only searching for what i am interested in? Will DDG throw in some random results in every search to save me from myself?
DDG won't build a profile about you; it only returns the most relevant links to the keywords entered. The original Google search, only on today's web.
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#98Except duckduckgo can't find my project and Google can: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=sphela+github https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=sphela
"Try: !github sphela (Searches GitHub.com using our !bang syntax"
!gh works too.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#99The purpose of search engines is filtering content to give you what you want, which might be information, or it might be discussion, or polemics, or gossip. If you want to learn about some topic that has some element of subjectivity, familiarize yourself with the different points of view and read the writing of whoever you are interested in. There are lots of tools on the Internet to facilitate this -- Wikipedia, for…
How to do I know what filters form the top results if they aren't transparent? What would lead you to believe that familiarizing yourself with a different point of view would take you down a meaningfully different path through the search graph? None that I can see. Every search has a non-objective filter. The original page rank is one such. What would be useful is to make the tree obvious and manipulable as a separat…
I agree that it would be cool to expose the different criteria that Google (for instance) is using to help reorder your results, to the degree that those criteria can be discretely identified, but I'm not surprised that they don't; that's a pretty significant portion of their secret sauce they would be publicizing.
I also don't think that mere transparency would really help solve any search engine "filter bubble" problem, if such a thing is real. Nothing would make Joe Google User take five minutes off whatever he came to search for to fiddle with some tree full of sliders on his result page.
Re: DuckDuckGo: Escape your search engine filter bubble
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can get "clean" or "default" results from google by using http://www.scroogle.org/
How? I've seen other people link to it, it's just a page with text salad. What is there to use? I don't understand that site.
Use http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
If you are using firefox, right click into the input field and select add keyword search, and add a keyword. Now you can easily search via scroogle entering the keyword and then the searchterms in the address bar.