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Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by PKop »

float4 wrote: post #81
nstart wrote: post #58

This seems like an ok time to point to Shaan's twitter thread on why he believes clubhouse will fail [1]. Nothing is guaranteed of course, but it is an entertaining read. It's designed to be a bit over the top, silicon valley esque story style. But the person who wrote it, is writing from their experience of actually launching, and burning out in an attempt to build a similar company which makes the thread that much…

> [...] it is an entertaining read The exact opposite for me. Their points are interesting, but to me the format just felt like a very poor attempt at creative writing. The first ~10 tweets convey absolutely no useful information. They only "set the scene". I can see how others do find it entertaining though.

Completely agree. All the extraneous fluff was a huge distraction vs just distilling his points down to half the amount of tweets.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by behnamoh »

naravara wrote: post #66
nstart wrote: post #58

This seems like an ok time to point to Shaan's twitter thread on why he believes clubhouse will fail [1]. Nothing is guaranteed of course, but it is an entertaining read. It's designed to be a bit over the top, silicon valley esque story style. But the person who wrote it, is writing from their experience of actually launching, and burning out in an attempt to build a similar company which makes the thread that much…

I think Clubhouse is making a big mistake if they don't sell out to a bigger player. It's like the Steve Jobs quote to Dropbox about how what they have is a feature, not a product. What Clubhouse offers should be built into a broader social network since it clearly can't survive on independently for the reasons Shaan mentions. Discord is already launching "Stages" which aims to replicate Clubhouse's main selling poin…

CH gathers users' contacts lists probably in an attempt to increase its valuation in the market. If you can clone CH but don't have the same data about users, it makes sense to just buy CH.

I don't like CH because I don't like anything that only caters to "elites" and select groups. IMO, that goes against the very purpose of the Internet.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by solosoyokaze »

themolecularman wrote: post #16
reidjs wrote: post #5

One clubhouse is already too many. Listening to clubhouse is like turning a screen reader on your LinkedIn feed.

On the other hand, while there are a lot of "influencer" rooms, there have been a lot of rooms where discussions I don't see going on anywhere else are happening. I'm specifically talking about politics, things like CRT (critical race theory) and it's march through schools, business, and politics. As well as other controversial subjects. At times they get heated but for the most part people are generally civil and th…

> I'm specifically talking about politics, things like CRT (critical race theory) and it's march through schools, business, and politics.

This sounds like every right wing subreddit and youtube channel in existence. I don't think any of those have hit critical mass, definitely nowhere near something to justify Clubhouse's valuation.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by solosoyokaze »

arkitaip wrote: post #59
ausbah wrote: post #49

I'm still not convinced that clubhouse is anything more than real time podcasts saturated with linkedin influencers

Far more useless apps have reached far higher heights. In the end, growthies cater primarily to future investors and that means growth, spectacle, FOMO and dark patterns are prioritized over usefulness and innovation.

Can you give an example of something more useless than Clubhouse? I can't really think of anything less useful than listening to a bunch of people self-promote in real-time audio.

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Post by bawlcoder »

No Android means you lose your affulent users.

Seems like they proritized the non techie masses over leadership in various industry.

Good for getting YouTubers on your platformer, not great for getting Seniors, academia, etc...

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by solosoyokaze »

vallas wrote: post #89
nstart wrote: post #58

This seems like an ok time to point to Shaan's twitter thread on why he believes clubhouse will fail [1]. Nothing is guaranteed of course, but it is an entertaining read. It's designed to be a bit over the top, silicon valley esque story style. But the person who wrote it, is writing from their experience of actually launching, and burning out in an attempt to build a similar company which makes the thread that much…

17.2k jealous people on Shaan's tweet.

Or maybe they just find Clubhouse ridiculous and are tired of hearing about it? The tweet is amusing if nothing else, I wouldn't suspect the people liking it are jealous of anything.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by duxup »

rrdharan wrote: post #70
naravara wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Clubhouse is making a big mistake if they don't sell out to a bigger player. It's like the Steve Jobs quote to Dropbox about how what they have is a feature, not a product. What Clubhouse offers should be built into a broader social network since it clearly can't survive on independently for the reasons Shaan mentions. Discord is already launching "Stages" which aims to replicate Clubhouse's main selling poin…

Except Dropbox succeeded as a separate company by most reasonable metrics. The Jobs offer was $1B IIRC; they’ve got a $12B market cap and some reasonable ROI far beyond the acquisition offer by now (remember even the IPO investors - non-retail - bought in at $21). Whether the total ROI exceeds the growth / rate of return in AAPL stock during that time, well, maybe not? But it would have been a cash transaction...

Dropbox also evolved into something more than what it was at the time of Steve's quote right?

I feel like both Steve can have been right, and Dropbox successful because it chose to do more than just be a feature.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by [deleted] »

corybrown wrote: post #84
rrdharan wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Dropbox succeeded as a separate company by most reasonable metrics. The Jobs offer was $1B IIRC; they’ve got a $12B market cap and some reasonable ROI far beyond the acquisition offer by now (remember even the IPO investors - non-retail - bought in at $21). Whether the total ROI exceeds the growth / rate of return in AAPL stock during that time, well, maybe not? But it would have been a cash transaction...

Jobs offered to buy them in 2009 when AAPL stock was around $5 a share (obviously a lot of splits happened), compared to today's price of over $120 so that $1B in stock would be around $25B, more than double Dropbox market cap

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