Finally organizations showing their support. Although the number of individuals who defend RMS is already more than twice the people who are anti-RMS and still growing, its nice to see organizations joining to defend RMS.
Where are you maintaining this score, out of curiosity?
Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
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Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
The GPL does put restriction on use. If you make modification to the code and do not share those modifications, you are constrained from using the code you modified. And those constraints are for political reasons. The Four Freedoms are a political ideology about how software, developers, and users should morally interact, and the GPL exists as a legal tool to support this political ideology. Edit: clarification - by…
> The GPL does put restriction on use. No, it does not. It places restrictions on redistribution , not on use. You can use it no matter who or what you are. > If you make modification to the code and do not share those modifications, you are constrained from using the code you modified. Incorrect. You can modify and use it to your hearts content. You are only required to share your modifications source if you distrib…
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Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#93"Clearly, they/them is commonly understood and will cause the least amount of misunderstanding." While I support this campaign and I support RMS right to free speech, I find it ridiculous that everyone is now expected to use they/them pronouns for non-binaries etc. Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists?
How else do you refer to non-binary people?
Like those ternary people? Jerks.
Like we get it. There were a couple of experimental machines during the Cold War, but two-state logic circuits have clearly won.
Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#94"Clearly, they/them is commonly understood and will cause the least amount of misunderstanding." While I support this campaign and I support RMS right to free speech, I find it ridiculous that everyone is now expected to use they/them pronouns for non-binaries etc. Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists?
How else do you refer to non-binary people?
In Greg Egan’s novel Distress [0] he described a whole system of pronouns for different genders that existed in his world. While “they” is harder for me to comprehend because it requires context, if that’s someone’s preference I work on it because I don’t think we’re likely to adopt the non-gendered singular like ve/ver/vis.
[0] https://nb-in-sf.tumblr.com/post/186129553898/distress-by-gr...
Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#95"Clearly, they/them is commonly understood and will cause the least amount of misunderstanding." While I support this campaign and I support RMS right to free speech, I find it ridiculous that everyone is now expected to use they/them pronouns for non-binaries etc. Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists?
> Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists? One of the things I always thought really great about the Net is that I can be whoever I like. So I think it’s cool that people can redefine and choose whatever pronouns, titles, and names they think are most applicable to them. I met a guy a con who went by “Hugme” and used that name everywhere. I a…
That's the thing, I have no problems with lifestyles, sexual orientations, but what is happening here is that a certain convention is being forced on us, whether we like it or not.
Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#96Software that removes the freedoms of its users is a moral injustice and the FSF has always fought against such injustice. I don’t see how capitulating to lies to satisfy a witch hunt based on slander, and thereby perpetuate an injustice, would help strengthen FSF’s commitment to fighting against the injustice of proprietary software. If all it takes for the FSF to stand by injustice is a misinformation campaign and…
I wouldn't call it slander. - Stallman is a divisive figure, with questionable opinions outside the realm of free software, opinions he published himself, willingly. - He multiple times ignored the contributions of women, and did so after being corrected. - Lots of women feel uncomfortable close to him due to his behavior. Some of that may be involuntary. - The board reinstated him without an announcement, prior disc…
Have you read the open letter? The points you list above are a lot more milquetoast than the "evidence" against RMS that was posted on the open letter - it performs such disingenuous actions as quoting statements that RMS has since retracted or changed, refusing to admit the fact that he has changed; mischaracterising his suggestion of alternative pronouns as a transphobic attack when in fact RMS has stated that he himself will respect people's personal pronouns; underplaying the vicious media attack that was launched against him.
While the claims you make in your comment might not be slander, the open letter is much less nuanced, and strays a lot closer to that line.
Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#97What is the reason for flagging this post?
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#98"Clearly, they/them is commonly understood and will cause the least amount of misunderstanding." While I support this campaign and I support RMS right to free speech, I find it ridiculous that everyone is now expected to use they/them pronouns for non-binaries etc. Am I the only one or has the world gone absolutely batshit insane, driven by purple haired Twitter trans-extremists?
People thinking like that would be happy making New English and in fact is probably making one already.
For me, as someone with no grammatical genders at all in his native language, I don't think there are any real differences between using grammatical gendered pronouns or not. In some real way, gendered pronouns help in parsing subjects much more easily than otherwise. We do use proper noun-as-pronouns by default more than English or other gendered languages so that might be one way of avoiding ambiguity
Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Free speech never implied freedom from consequences though - this isn't the government suppressing RMS, it's people reacting to his free speech and deciding that they don't like it. Good point - looking at the petitions, it's become obvious that the people deciding they don't like RMS's speeach are in the minority. Is it worth firing an entire board because a minority feels insecure? On your mind, is tyranny by the…
...just because it's a minority doesn't mean it's inherently wrong. At the risk of the ghost of Godwin's, black people were a minority in the 1960s, yet still had a good point about their aims. And as for whether or not the board chooses to listen to the feedback, entirely up to them and their governance structure.
> ...just because it's a minority doesn't mean it's inherently wrong. At the risk of the ghost of Godwin's, black people were a minority in the 1960s, yet still had a good point about their aims.
Another good point: if the cancel-culture we are currently suffering under now was practiced in the 60s, black people, women, minorities, etc would never had gotten equal rights.
It's because everyone was allowed to speak that the message came across and won minds. The fact that people are asking for the silencing of their opponents is a good indicator that their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Like it or not, RMS does scrutinise the status quo. Petitioning for exemption from critics makes it hard to support those people doing the petitioning.
Re: Libreboot – Defend Richard Stallman
#100Complete hogwash, but whatever. Stallman defenders would do well to not overstate his and the FSF's present (not historical) importance to the software community in addition to understating his views and the things he did.
What exactly did he do ? From what I've gathered he gave out cards which was basically an invitation to a date with him should anyone be interested, and he made a very ill-concieved statement regarding harm from children having sex with adults. A really stupid comment but hardly something that would warrant this kind of response, at least unless he doubled down on it.
Is this all ?