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Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

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Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>How do you propose a group of 50,000 people interface with their elected congress critters? Setting aside the reasons this situation exists and the problems it's creating, I believe the usual methods are mail, e-mail, and phone calls. Or if that doesn't work, then torches and pitchforks. Everyone who knew about the DMCA before it went into effect hated it, but the monied interests pushed it through. Corruption in ac…

> Or if that doesn't work, then torches and pitchforks. It's America. I think the Matrix quote "guns; lots of guns" is more appropriate :)

Call me old fashioned, but I like guillotines, myself.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#92

As long as ‘on penalty of perjury’ has absolutely no meaning this will continue forever. There can be no balance without consequences for false takedown requests.

"On penalty of perjury" basically always means nothing. Since being wrong isn't a crime, they have to demonstrate that you knew you were lying, which is either going to be impossible, or a long drawn out investigation.

It is ironic that if you're wrong about content being infringing and get it taken down, there's no punishment unless you intentionally lie. If you're infringing, but thought your use was fair use, you've still committed a crime.

I do wonder how some of these satisfy the "good faith" clause, though. This isn't one of those cases (I think Sega is wrong, but I can see how they meet good faith here). Some of the other cases have involved filing DMCA complaints against Wikipedia for completely unrelated articles. Once or twice I've seen companies files DMCA complaints against themselves. I can't see how that could possibly be in good faith; they clearly haven't even looked at the content, which should preclude any claim of "good faith". You can't make a good faith argument if you have no idea what you're even arguing.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#93

I think that until the USA gets rid of legal lobbying from interest groups (aka, legalized corruption), this kinds of things will keep happening. Having to pull content down without any order from a judge is nonsense. These companies would be more careful if they had to go through some legal process instead of just ordering their lawyers to send empty threads to people that can't financially afford the economic burde…

> Having to pull content down without any order from a judge is nonsense.

An ISP is not required to pull content down when they receive a DMCA takedown notice. If the ISP takes the content down, however, they receive immunity from liability for any alleged copyright infringement. The ISP usually doesn't have the time or money to investigate whether the takedown notice is legitimate or not, so their first reaction is to take the content down.

Cases like this, where the person sending the takedown notice doesn't seem to understand that the ISP isn't hosting any infringing content, are pretty rare. If the ISP in this case reinstated the content, then the copyright owner would do more investigation before actually filing a lawsuit. If that happened, they would find that there isn't any actual infringement, so they wouldn't file a lawsuit.

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#94
post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sega has had a lot of top tier games in recent years.

Which ones? I see a bunch of remasters of old games, but few top tier titles in the past 5 years.

Persona 5 has sold millions of copies. Yakuza 6, Judgement, and Yakuza Like a Dragon all did well. I'm not really interested in Football Manager but I know it's incredibly popular

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#95

Players of PSO2 (an MMO game) will tell you that SEGA is notoriously improbable to get a hold of, and they don't respond much beyond automated messaging to issues re: bans. A couple friends were banned erroneously via an automated purge of around 10k+ players. Their customer service was stone silent. Randomly with no communication, one of their accounts was back online after a couple months. It's worth mentioning tha…

Improbable?

Re: Sega Lawyers Demand “Immediate Suspension” of Steam Database over Alleged Piracy

#96
post #11

https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1376796965942464515 > We've got in touch with someone at SEGA of America and it is being looked into. > Thanks for your support everyonee, it is truly amazing to see that my hobby (!) project is useful to so many people

And the followup to that: https://twitter.com/thexpaw/status/1377021851214417922

> The issue with SEGA has been resolved!

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