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Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#91
post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Killfiles worked for usenet

That’s just asking users to moderate themselves.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#92

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/13711918852686725... > What's possible is a Twitter staffer tried to block a street address, but the postal syntax acted as an escape sequence, or the original was multi-line and they only pasted the city. What postal syntax in the US looks like an escape sequence?

I meant separator token, sorry.

Very easy to imagine a , or a \n being directly before and/or after a city name.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#93
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Killfiles worked for usenet

I’m curious, How were those killfiles different than muting or blocking on Twitter? Usenet was a little before my time.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_file

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#94
post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Killfiles worked for usenet

It worked for a while for the single user.

However with growth there were more bad users and misbehaving users still could give a bad impression to new people in a group, thus limiting acquiring new users.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#95

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/13711918852686725... > What's possible is a Twitter staffer tried to block a street address, but the postal syntax acted as an escape sequence, or the original was multi-line and they only pasted the city. What postal syntax in the US looks like an escape sequence?

Probably the comma faking out a CSV parser? US addresses are typically written like "123 Fake St, Memphis, TN 38002" with commas between the street address and city, between the city and state, but not between the state and ZIP code.

e: I wonder if somebody with a large handful of accounts to burn could narrow down the intended block target by tweeting every combination of "{states_containing_a_memphis__abbreviation} {ZIP_code}" until one of them gets blocked? http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Memphis-Tennessee.html

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#96
post #84

Most of you tweeted that to see if the autolock works. Sounds like a you problem to me.

Please don't post unsubstantive and/or flamebait comments to HN. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26458641 .

Sure. But to be honest, I thought it was substantative, because "Sounds like a you problem" is a possible response from AI moderation. I know that it's not OK, but it does happen.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#97
post #34

Twitter has increasingly slid into user-hostile territory. I moderate /r/Twitter on reddit and we have a pinned thread just showing nothing but complaint after complaint, because content moderation is a failure when you attempt to scale it. We'd like to get Twitter Comms to address it at some point, but the company is opaque. It's just nuts.

Unpopular opinion: I am not sure if I come to the the same conclusion (that Twitter is user-hostile). Even if you see "complaint after complaint". It could be actually true that the complaint ratio is going down, because the # of users or engagement is actually growing. I am not saying I know the rate, but I don't think we can rule that possibility out.

As a thought exercise, if you assume there is 1% chance of someone complaining about something that went wrong with their account. And there is a billion users using that service. You will have to have a super high accuracy to not end up in a world where there isn't a dozen+ people being affected each month. I believe that Twitter (and other services) actually do try very hard to avoid this, but it is a very hard problem.

To this, some HN users believe that they just should have say 100k+ humans moderating everything, but it is very hard to have 100K humans consistently moderate and not introduce biases.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#98
post #55

In general it seems like moderating platforms with millions/billions of users is a fool's errand, but is required to be attempted due to the level of centralization we've ended up with. Regardless of how much of it is automated away via blackbox ML algorithms lacking transparency or via outsourcing to cheap labor that spends their days looking at terribly offensive and shocking content, the end result is going to hav…

Thankfully, as seen in Russia and India, those thousands of cultures have no wish to be moderated by the self-anointed SV elite.

Re: Tweeting “Memphis” autolocks your Twitter account

#100

https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/13711918852686725... > What's possible is a Twitter staffer tried to block a street address, but the postal syntax acted as an escape sequence, or the original was multi-line and they only pasted the city. What postal syntax in the US looks like an escape sequence?

I meant separator token, sorry.

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