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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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How to create one super successful email client. - Support IMAP IDLE - Support all the major business platforms: Web, Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android. - Support email encryption on a one off basis as needed. Nothing fancy just encrypt the email with AES256. Don't worry I'll get the key to the reipient. Why this would be super successful. 1) It would eliminate instant messaging for most business use. 2) Consistency, si…

You can't do IMAP on iOS in the background.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#92

How to create one super successful email client. - Support IMAP IDLE - Support all the major business platforms: Web, Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android. - Support email encryption on a one off basis as needed. Nothing fancy just encrypt the email with AES256. Don't worry I'll get the key to the reipient. Why this would be super successful. 1) It would eliminate instant messaging for most business use. 2) Consistency, si…

FYI, two points from the Roadmap from the linked website: > IMAP IDLE – This is the last big item blocking the release of a new stable version. > Integrate Autocrypt support

Yes, and these are welcome improvements.

Unfortunately, they only apply to Android with K9.

K9 would be much more popular if businesses could simply tell employees, "Use K9 for mail" or even "Use K9 for mobile email".

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#93
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Delta Chat has a lot of good stuff. What I need and what I think most businesses need is Delta Email instead of Delta Chat.

I think business doesn't actually want Email, it wants NNTP. The semantics are different enough that both models have a reason to exist and complement each other: - With email you write to a specific address. With NNTP you write to a group. In a business you almost always want to target multiple people, because activity is interesting (and relevant) to many people. - To solve that we have a hack that is mailing lists…

I think business doesn't actually want Email, it wants NNTP

Or how about just an email client with better support for mailing lists?

The SMTP protocol supports multiple recipients adequately enough --- it's the client software that could stand some improvement to make it easier to apply/use.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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That one supposedly has source code available under GPL3 but despite GPL3 clause 9, which says "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program", presents the GPL3 as an EULA and refuses to run unless the user clicks "I agree".

Our of curiosity, has this been raised with the developer?

Not by me. The developer is, as far as I am aware, not doing anything illegal, and while F-Droid technically are, the developer as the copyright holder is the only one who could possibly take any action against it and is, I would expect, happier with F-Droid doing what they are doing now than with patching out the EULA acceptance screen.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#95

PSA: if you've not used it in awhile, use the betas via F-Droid: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.fsck.k9/ You have to click "Versions" from the F-Droid app and specifically opt-in (and upgrade) the betas, F-Droid will default to installing the older stable version. The betas are almost night (mode heh) and day apart, the UI and operations have almost a complete overhaul from the old days and it looks (and works)…

Thanks for the pointer - much improved indeed! I was getting the impression that development had ceased and never knew that F-Droid doesn't always install the latest available version.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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K-9 is a really great mail app for android! In my opinion it's the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc. It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. People that either want to avoid walled gardens or…

>It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. As a caveat here, at least in the non-beta version, support for PGP signatures is intentionally crippled because the original author dislikes them and apparently wants to push encryption (eg, https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/is…

For clarity, the author doesn't like unencrypted but signed emails. Which strikes me as weird but at least it isn't something that people would normally do. They are OK with encrypted and signed emails and presumably encrypted but not signed emails. Here is the rationale:

* https://k9mail.app/2016/11/24/OpenPGP-Considerations-Part-I....

I think there are implementations out there that don't let you send encrypted but unsigned messages (anonymous encrypted). This stuff seems to bring out the enforced opinions in people.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

#98
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think business doesn't actually want Email, it wants NNTP. The semantics are different enough that both models have a reason to exist and complement each other: - With email you write to a specific address. With NNTP you write to a group. In a business you almost always want to target multiple people, because activity is interesting (and relevant) to many people. - To solve that we have a hack that is mailing lists…

I think business doesn't actually want Email, it wants NNTP Or how about just an email client with better support for mailing lists? The SMTP protocol supports multiple recipients adequately enough --- it's the client software that could stand some improvement to make it easier to apply/use.

I thought it would be sufficiently explained in my message. Mailing lists don't fix that because there's no standardized protocl for creating, modifying and removing them. Moreover even if there was, if a user isn't part of the mailing list but wants to see some message someone needs to forward it. If a message was sent before you joined, too bad, you can't see it.

Everything is just a very clunky experience made with ducktape and handmade scripts for something that can't even do all we want. It's totally normal that people flocked to other solutions.

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#99

How to create one super successful email client. - Support IMAP IDLE - Support all the major business platforms: Web, Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android. - Support email encryption on a one off basis as needed. Nothing fancy just encrypt the email with AES256. Don't worry I'll get the key to the reipient. Why this would be super successful. 1) It would eliminate instant messaging for most business use. 2) Consistency, si…

You can't do IMAP on iOS in the background.

Apple's inadequacy doesn't have to be universally applied.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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I'm a little miffed that this comment has a better explanation of "why I should care about K-9 Mail" than anything I could find from deliberately looking for that information on their site. The "about" page just talks about the team, and their blog posts, even the one "what's up with K-9?" just talk about release schedules.

K-9 Mail never had a PR or marketing person. But help in that area would certainly be welcome. What information would you like to find on the website exactly?

Just that by going to "about" I could find some "why K-9" page that explains what's great about it esp. compared to alternatives.
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