> The popular blockchains only don’t offer transaction finality i.e you will never be 100% sure that you have gotten funds. > You can only be probabilistically to a high degree (but with zero guarantee) that you have received your funds. All cryptography depends on it being probabilistically difficult to guess the secret. This is an exceptionally weak criticism of blockchains.
Why blockchain is not yet working (2018)
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Re: Why blockchain is not yet working (2018)
#92No, blockchains are not the future, they are really the reason why one transaction can happen at a time in the whole world. Even Ethereum 2.0 will have shards which will do away with this anomaly. The only reason flash loans even work with no collateral is because you can be sure nothing else is running on the “world computer” while your transaction runs, so you can roll it back with no risk except gas fees. Vitalik…
I think blockchain can be a good answer to problems that Bitcoin solves, however the blockchain used needs to not be designed as an MLM scheme with a financial incentive for its adoption, and designed to avoid other unavoidable pitfalls Bitcoin creates that we need to avoid. I think the current iteration of blockchain as Bitcoin only became the incumbent because of the MLM scheme, and that there is a non-MLM solution that can gain adoption - it just has to be understood by democratically elected decision makers first (save regulatory capture which will most certainly happen with the weight of the "army/mob of HODLers."
Re: Why blockchain is not yet working (2018)
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think that's their point. There's a lot of discussion that 'banks will become obsolete with crypto' that forgets that banks are not the currency, they just manage it. If crypto becomes widespread banks will keep on existing, they'll just move to manage cryptocurrencies. > You just recreated consumer banking. While I personally detest the notion of such a model, and things like GME show why that is: I realized tha…
What are core competencies for moving into blockchain work?
Ultimately dapp (I hate that term but have long since grudgingly accepted that it's become ubiquitous in the industry) development is just normal web app development except that you might also be making AJAX requests to a blockachin and possibly also writing your own smart contracts. Writing your own smart contracts is a somewhat distinct skillset, but the rest of it is just normal web app development.
Re: Why blockchain is not yet working (2018)
#94I think the #1 reason blockchain doesn't work is very simple - the technology is broken beyond fixability. This article is two years old, but the same variations of these excuses always come up when the crypto ideologues are grilled on why their utopiaic vision hasn't come about, for all of blockchain's existence. Blockchain is awful for most things compared to a centralized or distributed database: it is inefficient…
This is the typical argument on a very technical board such as HN where blockchain is synonymous with a specific implementation. But that's an outdated way to think about blockchains. Yes, Bitcoin's implementation is a huge resource hog and slow. But for most newer projects "blockchain" just means an auditable trail of state changes. Whether you implement this with the shiniest newest db paradigm or some simple SQL d…
you mean, the 1979-model Merkle tree? I concur that in a lot of marketed "blockchains", the closest to a useful bit is the 1979-model Merkle tree.
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This is like saying we shouldn't build or invest in computers anymore because they cost so much and take up whole rooms full of space. Bitcoin is version 0.1 of a new way to record and share a common ledger. The cost and energy requirements are simple tradeoffs that are completely configurable to the applications needs. Go look at all the alt coins out there, blockchain tech does not require the same levels of decent…
Not really, most of the centralized ones could just be replaced with a mysql server and have the same properties. Notable exception being some of the proof-of-stake schemes, but its not like that's a scaling tradeoff but a totally different approach.
They can try, but they would need an impartial intermediary.
As someone that got shafted by the gme shutdown, I would have loved to be trading over a block chain unimpeded by "regulatory oversight".
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Bitcoin has all of the problems listed in the article and is, arguably, not yet providing the social value that blockchain could. Not sure how a high market cap is a counter argument to that.
Especially considering market cap is a totally made up number and if everybody tried to get out at once they would get a fraction of a fraction of it. (1) But it's pointless to tell this to a cryptofreak because they're so heavily invested in it they make zealots look reasonable. (1) not to mention the fact that as soon as there is volatility exchange sites go down, even the bigger ones.
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> "The only good use cases that come to mind is if there is some particular reason for you to evade the conventional and easier systems of communication and storage." * Nailed it * I've long said the killer app for blockchain already exists: international money laundering and untraceable transfers. This also happens to be the precise use case where folks want to "evade conventional and easier systems".
Until you need international remittances or business payments. Then, Crypto at its worst is far better than international Wire Transfers, etc.
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#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I think that's their point. There's a lot of discussion that 'banks will become obsolete with crypto' that forgets that banks are not the currency, they just manage it. If crypto becomes widespread banks will keep on existing, they'll just move to manage cryptocurrencies. > You just recreated consumer banking. While I personally detest the notion of such a model, and things like GME show why that is: I realized tha…
What are core competencies for moving into blockchain work?
That's too broad a question, and really depends on the ecosystem, but I'll narrow it down for you if you want just want one obvious use case and I can expand as I go: verifiable proof of ownership.
Something like Melvin Capital shorting 138% of GMS's stock would be impossible in a properly regulated Market, one that prohibits endless speculation and the wanton destruction of Capital for the sole purpose of making money gambling to take a business down as the outstanding shares cannot simply be willed into existence if they need to be cryptograhpically verified and exists solely on a blockchain, but most likely a sidechain/colored-coin system that still has the same properties.
Naked Short selling maybe technically illegal, but that is in name only and in continues unabated to this day, hell the SEC refused to look into this obvious collusion between various hedge funds (citadel/melvin/Steve Cohen) but speculation about trying to go after Elon for taking to Social Media and talking about Bitcoin is enough to warrant a possible investigation?
Also, deed ownership, be it land or property: government's entering hyperinflation and dissolving is a perfect time for asset forfeiture on a national level (nationalizing) by the vying faction and is responsible for so much unnecessary misery and wasted Human Capital: I wish I still had this interview that really touched me it was with Suboi, a now famous Vietnamese rapper, but relatively unknown at the time and her parent's issue with trying to convince the Vietnamese government that they owned the home before the War happened but they tried to make all kinds of excuses to repossess it as she was growing up: its the basis for her song 'Đời' talking about her father's attempted suicide and thier monetary troubles as a result of this dispute with the government.
Same thing happened in Katrina with FEMA and settlement checks as ownership of the home had been on a legacy basis that had roots from sometimes from colonial times.
Lastly, and most vivid to me is over coming censorship, but specifically financial censorship: I did it and I could write a book on the matter. But suffice it to say, I was really touched by Paxful's work recently as they just built their 4th school in Nigeria instead of 'moonboi'ing it' and buying 'lambos' with the wealth their startup created and have instead focused on help build the the Nigerian economy and it's entrepreneurs to create wealth all while their Government is actively trying to deem it as the source of all it's problems, not least of which ~12 inflation per annul that is a direct result of poor monetary policy coupled with even worse insular laws and ossified fintech solutions.
My most ambitious and craziest goal/aspiration of all is something Elon just made possible with adoptiong Bitcoin and making it clear a crypto will be used on Mars: Bitcoin serving as the medium of exchange for inter-planetary trade and commerce, and a settlements network.
Banking even in the West doesn't even work on weekends or past 5pm and people are just assuming we can keep carrying that corpse on our backs as we are slowly getting closer to becoming an multi-planteray species is beyond me and I cannot emphasize how critical that will be in just the next 2 decades.
Voting is another one that should also be clear, given Trumps fomenting of violence in the capital reminding why its best to have open and free elections that can be verified by anyone in real time. Several countries have attempted this so I'm not going to into depth as the information exists, and that's just focusing on what we've created in the last decade, I think the next 2 are going to be an even more interesting ride as I cannot even what is next and this tech moves so fast.
UBI would be another one, but to be honest Aurora failed and we didn't gain much useful info from it's failure, so this is one we have to wait for Nation states to fail (even more than the US has with unemployment apparently) at and we can quickly iterate from there as the technology is just way more robust and capable now.
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Thanks, that looks amazing. It's gonna take me a while to digest it though. :) Does the article conclude that the correlation with the US going off the gold standard, and consequent change in monetary policy, is completely spurious?
It is mentioned in passing, but not discussed in depth. I don't think it plays a large role (mostly because it was a consequence of the economic development - they didn't just went off gold because they felt like it), most importantly because the same curve can be seen in other industrial economies in the same period - which didn't use gold before. I guess the computer revolution plays a large role, significantly alt…
It seems to me that like most macroeconomics issues, it's a multivariate phenomenon, so correlational studies can only get you so far.
Do you have books you would recommend on the subject?