What's wrong with Firefox? I use it daily and it works great.
The endless browser wars
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Re: The endless browser wars
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
My understanding is that chromium can't be run on Windows or Mac. Chrome Canary or some testing variant can but not Chromium. It's hard to consider it a mainstream option in that case for me. EDIT: this is untrue, chromium builds are available for all platforms from chromium.org. Please ignore
>can't be run on windows I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. chromium.org doesn't offer chroimium builds on their website but there are a number of places you can get someone elses build, for example https://chromium.woolyss.com/ or https://github.com/macchrome/winchrome/tree/master or presumably just build it yourself if you wanted to.
or even easier:
choco install chromium
choco install ungoogled-chromium
Re: The endless browser wars
#93Key points: > Much of what appears to be Chrome (or Chromium) functionality is, in truth, provided by servers in Google's data centers. These include bookmark synchronization, the safe-browsing feature, search suggestions, spell-checking, and more. > On January 15, the Chromium blog carried this brief notice that, as of March 15, non-Chrome builds of Chromium would lose access to these APIs. > Anticipating this, dist…
Chrome's sync does sync more than just bookmarks. You can paste "chrome://sync-internals/" into the url bar to see the list of synced stuff, it's in a table on the far right, or click the "data" tab. The synced autofill, for example, is useful to me.
"The synced autofill, for example, is useful to me."
Yet another reason to remember to use private mode when browsing at 'home'.
Re: The endless browser wars
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple's webkit is open source as well. All major browsers are based on open source engines. The situation could be much worse.
That's true, but Safari uses a closed source JavaScript engine. Seems to me it doesn't count for much unless the whole browser is Free and Open Source. A single non-Free component is enough for them to sneak in functionality that you don't want. See also: the VSCodium editor/IDE. Official builds of Visual Studio Code do not correspond to the published Visual Studio Code source-code, as they ship with additional telem…
These browser war threads always attract the worst kind of pundits: ones who have strong opinions but no idea what they're talking about.
> That's true, but Safari uses a closed source JavaScript engine.
No.
Re: The endless browser wars
#95Key points: > Much of what appears to be Chrome (or Chromium) functionality is, in truth, provided by servers in Google's data centers. These include bookmark synchronization, the safe-browsing feature, search suggestions, spell-checking, and more. > On January 15, the Chromium blog carried this brief notice that, as of March 15, non-Chrome builds of Chromium would lose access to these APIs. > Anticipating this, dist…
I'll throw out there that I did switch from Chrome to FF back when Quantum came out and haven't looked back since. It's snappier than chrome, seems to hog less resources and I find their containers feature a godsend for seperating my work and personal accounts. So I'd encourage it, I've been with FF for a couple years now and I love it.
I agree.
Firefox is my main browser. I use the others (mainly for testing).
It’s gotten better and better and no longer find “debuging JavaScript is enough better in chrome” to do that . I also really like the way the dev tools handle css grid.
Re: The endless browser wars
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's worse even than that. As long as one company controls the One Rendering Engine, all websites are tested against that One Rendering Engine (i.e. not the truth of the spec). It becomes impossible to create a new rendering engine without actively copying the quirks behaviours.
It also - and this is why folks got so keyed up about the last browser monoculture - makes it impossible to create a successful alternative software platform without the support of the One Rendering Engine. So it becomes an agent of an overall software monoculture. Sadly, I fear that the reason Free Software folks don't seem to be getting quite so keyed up about Chrome is that, at least for now, the One Rendering Eng…
This is true. The importance of a good browser to Linux cannot be overstated.
Re: The endless browser wars
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
It also - and this is why folks got so keyed up about the last browser monoculture - makes it impossible to create a successful alternative software platform without the support of the One Rendering Engine. So it becomes an agent of an overall software monoculture. Sadly, I fear that the reason Free Software folks don't seem to be getting quite so keyed up about Chrome is that, at least for now, the One Rendering Eng…
This is true. The importance of a good browser to Linux cannot be overstated.
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Re: The endless browser wars
#98Holding strong to Firefox as long as I have to. What really strikes me is why more people aren't pushing for open-source browsers. One would think that it is important to have an element of trust for something that makes up the bulk of your computer's uptime, but perhaps open source is no longer a good indicator of trust for projects as large and complex as modern browsers, or people are willing to trust them anyway.…
For many many people Facebook down means internet is broken. Can’t even tell me if using browser or App. When driving somewhere I often ask the navigator which app they are using, google of Apple Maps. 5 years still can’t tell the difference. Oddly She knows Waze. Tech people concerns don’t line up well to normal people.
I've discovered a new one recently: I asked people what browser they were using on their Android, and they couldn't tell me. When I asked them to show me, they showed me the Google search bar on the homepage.
People don't even use a browser anymore, they're using a previewer for browsing the web. I was kinda sad to see that they used that thing, but in a way we should be happy about that; when people want to check the recipe for a cheesecake, they go and get a recipe for a cheesecake. They don't care about what tools are in the way and they shouldn't. We tech people tend to forget about why we build software. If Google wasn't Google I'd be very fine with people forgetting about the name of their browser, but in this instance they're using one of the worst ways to browse the web.
Re: The endless browser wars
#99I wish there was a true war, but unfortunately Chrome has too much domination, expect on Apple's ecosystem.
This is pretty similar to the 90s/00s situation with Internet Explorer! It's an apt metaphor; IE6 emerged as dominant at the conclusion of the first browser wars. Chrome is today's IE6.
Memories of doing my timcard. The webpage used to work on hpux and Solaris, but the new one was ie only. The solution was not to fix the time card website, but to force all developers to remote into to a windows box to run Internet Explorer..
I don’t miss time cards..
Re: The endless browser wars
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's true, but Safari uses a closed source JavaScript engine. Seems to me it doesn't count for much unless the whole browser is Free and Open Source. A single non-Free component is enough for them to sneak in functionality that you don't want. See also: the VSCodium editor/IDE. Official builds of Visual Studio Code do not correspond to the published Visual Studio Code source-code, as they ship with additional telem…
These browser war threads always attract the worst kind of pundits: ones who have strong opinions but no idea what they're talking about. > That's true, but Safari uses a closed source JavaScript engine. No.
These thread always attract the worst kind of commenters: ones who make strong claims without providing any explanation or evidence.