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Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by cratermoon »

nowandlater wrote: post #83

Nextdoor feed right now, first four in chronological order: * Covid vaccine -- Does anyone know where 65 year olds can get a Covid-19 vaccine? * Local PD Community Relations Post -- Sexual Assault Arrest on Saturday ... * Picture of Dog, Anyone missing a small black dog on Redacted st. * Temporary fix - This is for the jerk in the redacted-car-description and anyone else that wants to proceed to reach at least 80 mph…

> Covid vaccine -- Does anyone know where 65 year olds can get a Covid-19 vaccine

Hmm, NextDoor does have an older demographic. Maybe the organizations doing vaccine clinics should be on NextDoor. Some of the struggles I've heard about older folks struggling with apps and shitty websites suggest that the information needs to go where the audience already is, instead of trying to bring an audience to somewhere new.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by smogcutter »

cccc4all wrote: post #70
p1necone wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're simultaneously claiming that not enough money goes to teachers salaries and that the teachers unions are too powerful. I'm not really sure I follow.

Not enough money goes to good teachers and too much money goes to bad teachers. Teachers unions enable bad teachers by excusing their behavior. Doesn't do much to help good teachers. What does teachers unions do to help good teachers become better teachers and helping students? Teachers unions help bad teachers by preventing vast majority from being fired for being bad teachers. Everyone knows who the bad teachers ar…

Worth pointing out that regardless of its merits either way, this argument is in total bad faith unless you’d say the same thing about police unions. Bonus points for bringing it up at any passing mention of public employees, the way the teachers union rant comes up. Somehow that rarely seems to be the case.

Not going to pursue this any further bc nothing pointlessly derails a thread like arguing about public education (see also: nextdoor), and nothing is more boring than arguing over how much money someone else “deserves”.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by random5634 »

drdeadringer wrote: post #62

I don't remember local or small-town papers to [generally] being toxic or cesspools of hate. However, one of my True Jokes is "NextDoor: Hate Your Neighbors" just as "Facebook: Hate Your Family & Friends" and "Twitter: Hate Your Heroes". NextDoor sounds good, but it generally proves not. Everything from "suspicious teenagers on the sidewalk again" [meaning: local kids walking to their local home from the local school…

Reality is a bit different. On next door the most outraged / strongest voices dominate.

So very commonly now - let's say you have a bunch of kids ridding on the wrong side of the road, or someone with two off leash pitbulls bite someone, you get immediate claims of racism or similar if anyone suggests anything other than total understanding of the folks acting in what might be called an anti-social way.

The folks outraged and labeling others do drive down participation. I certainly no longer participate - despite being a significant donor to dem causes, a phone banker for what used to be traditional liberal issues etc.

Nextdoor: How fast can someone be offended by what someone else says - is probably the more correct title

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by ducttapecrown »

vb6sp6 wrote: post #67
hnburnsy wrote: post #7

Maybe it is just my nextdoor area but very little relevant community information is found, in fact most all discussions of schools, local politics, and HOAs immediately disappear. Most posts are looking for a local service provider or missing pets. That coupled with the non chronological feeds make me think that Nextdoor only wants to become an Angie's List and not a source of actual good for my community.

Nextdoor wants to make money. It's hard to make money and do good

Doing good is a market externality...

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by TedDoesntTalk »

testfrequency wrote: post #28
valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

Where my family lives, the newspaper there has a two page column with a catchy name, and it's simply daily complaints from residents about EVERYTHING. As a "treat" my family will cut out some of the most wild one's and mail them to me to remind me of what i'm missing. It's not as clearly racist as much of nextdoor tends to be, but it's everything from "why are the christmas lights up already", to "if they build a hoo…

I miss the weekly police logs in the local paper.... so and so arrested Saturday night for drunken disorderly conduct. Fun stuff to peruse.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by sharadov »

drdeadringer wrote: post #62

I don't remember local or small-town papers to [generally] being toxic or cesspools of hate. However, one of my True Jokes is "NextDoor: Hate Your Neighbors" just as "Facebook: Hate Your Family & Friends" and "Twitter: Hate Your Heroes". NextDoor sounds good, but it generally proves not. Everything from "suspicious teenagers on the sidewalk again" [meaning: local kids walking to their local home from the local school…

Don't forget suspicious brown/black man in a hoodie!

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by briffle »

spoonjim wrote: post #80
cccc4all wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds very judgmental about NextDoor users. They are voicing their concerns about their neighborhood and community. Why do you have to say anything about their community, especially if you don't live there? You also have the right to voice concerns about your neighborhood and community. I would assume you want others to respect your right to voice your concerns, just as they would expect you to respect their ri…

I live in a suburban area where you cannot get a house under $2 million. It is extraordinarily safe. Yet if you read the NextDoor it seems like 1970s New York, with crime and danger around every corner. Eyeball-oriented media always algorithmically boosts sensational news, which simply doesn’t reflect reality. Traditional print media, which would be owned by an independently wealthy elitist family, didn’t need those…

We had a post with short video of a 'suspicious white car, casing the neighborhood' several days in a row at 4am. A dozen posts about how things are going to hell, etc, followed by a post:

Hi mark, it's my car. I've delivered your newspaper every morning for 5 years now.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by cableshaft »

I don't know how big it is, but at least for us, Patch has replaced our local small-town paper a lot better than Nextdoor ever did. Actually get news about our city that way.

That being said, the comments section on Patch is borderline QAnon with conspiracy theories and tends to be extremely hateful of the local/state government, but the actual articles are solid and useful.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by kube-system »

cccc4all wrote: post #65
drdeadringer wrote: post #62

I don't remember local or small-town papers to [generally] being toxic or cesspools of hate. However, one of my True Jokes is "NextDoor: Hate Your Neighbors" just as "Facebook: Hate Your Family & Friends" and "Twitter: Hate Your Heroes". NextDoor sounds good, but it generally proves not. Everything from "suspicious teenagers on the sidewalk again" [meaning: local kids walking to their local home from the local school…

This sounds very judgmental about NextDoor users. They are voicing their concerns about their neighborhood and community. Why do you have to say anything about their community, especially if you don't live there? You also have the right to voice concerns about your neighborhood and community. I would assume you want others to respect your right to voice your concerns, just as they would expect you to respect their ri…

I have universally heard the same from anyone I know who uses nextdoor. Similar types of posts gain traction in my neighborhood, too. Flamebait topics tend to get a lot of engagement. Regardless of their right to do so, some people tend to feel empowered to say some nasty things from behind the comfort of their keyboard... and nextdoor is giving those people a soap box they might not deserve.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by robertcope »

tshaddox wrote: post #41
hawktheslayer wrote: post #4

I tried Nextdoor but quickly closed the app when it was filled with rumors about who in the neighborhood isn't cleaning up after their dog. Maybe I'm throwing away the baby with the bath water, but I don't feel like I miss out on all that much by forgoing yet another social media platform vying for my attention

I understand why it might be harmful (or at least annoying) to see people spreading rumors about who isn't cleaning up after their dog, but I'm curious how you might better handle the problem of people in the neighborhood not cleaning up after their dog.

I have had problems with people letting their dogs poop in my yard. What I started doing was scooping up the poop and putting it on the sidewalk. Interestingly, this seems to work.

I confronted one woman whose dog was pooping in my yard when I got home a few years ago. She came back and keyed my S2000. Of course the police did nothing.

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